Maybe our stripes should be bullseyes - Page 3

dblref · #31 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 23, 2004, 06:43am

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Originally posted by BBallCoach
Why should the public not be made aware of when an official has screwed up and has been disciplined? Are you not public workers who are being paid by the tax dollars that the local community pays to the school?

Are you in charge of the committee that sets our "pay"? If so, how about a raise?

brianp134 · #32 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 23, 2004, 08:59am

bball coach: I can't understand why you hate us so much. I would really like to know what your hatred comes from. Is it that you have a general dislike for officials? Just let us know what the problem is?

theboys · #33 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 23, 2004, 09:55am

My response to the legitimate requests to what refs can do to improve fans behavior, etc: Every season, regardless of level, should start with a formal parents/players/coaches discussion with referee association representatives. The discussions should cover all the basic rule misconceptions (e.g., "over the back", carry, traveling, etc), and an explanation of the idea of ad/disad. Part of the discussion should be the admission that, while all refs follow the same rule book, interpretation of rules sometimes makes for a little difference in the calling of a game. Discussion participants need to understand ahead of time the meeting is not a vent session, just an opportunity to understand the game better.

Have some rule and casebooks on-hand. Sell them.

As in any situation, you won't get 100% buy-in. But, chances are, you'll reach a few people in each of those discussions. Those people will gain a better understanding of the game, and pass that along to the people around them at the games. Heck, you might even recruit a couple of referees.

cmckenna · #34 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 23, 2004, 03:43pm

I still say that we should administer the 100 question test to BallBreakerCoach and see if he can even get 50% of them correct. Then at least we will know for sure that the reason he needs to bash is due to his complete lack of knowledge of the rules.

And my previous challenge stands from one of his other posts... Have your team play your biggest rival without any officials and let us know how that goes...

Mregor · #35 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 23, 2004, 03:58pm

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Originally posted by cmckenna
I still say that we should administer the 100 question test to BallBreakerCoach and see if he can even get 50% of them correct.

Hmmm, the test I take has 100 True or False questions. I'm no mathemetician, but I done gradiated the 6th grade and even I know that the pure odds are 50% right.

Maybe you should set the bar just a bit higher, but not too high that he can't reach it.

Mregor

cmckenna · #36 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 23, 2004, 04:07pm

How about 51%. That way he will have to think about 1 question....

#37 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 23, 2004, 06:59pm

So good to hear so many positive and classy responses from my dear friends the zebras. Now you must explain one thing to me, how is it that you are always complaining about the lack of respect you get, but in the same notion most of you just insult me, my coaching ability and my knowledge of the rules. Isn't it a bit hypercritical to demand respect but not show respect? I feel that all my posts have touched some nerves among members of the board and I find that very interesting. Why is it so many zebras are upset with me?

Your Favorite Coach,

BBallCoach

cmckenna · #38 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 23, 2004, 07:33pm

Beacuse you come here with a single agenda and that is to cause turmoil and controversy and for no other reason then to release some kind of pent up feelings of inadequecy.

I have read several of your posts and you have not contributed a single thing of value to the purpose of this board. You just seem to want to get your rocks off seeing how far you can push people because you can't do it on the court because the "zebras" as you call us are all out to get you.

They have treatments for paranoia these days. Maybe you should look in to them.

All of the other coaches on this forum are very well respected because they make a solid effort to learn and contribute value to the discussions at hand. For instance, if I were working a game being coached by our friend 'A Pennsylvania Coach' and he said I kicked one, I would probably have to believe him because he has made an effort to see the game from our side and an effort to fully understand the rules.

Instead of trying to be outrageous and confrontational all the time how about trying to be worth the air you breath.

mplagrow · #39 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 23, 2004, 10:11pm

Here we go again, kicking around the poor, beleagured, thought-provoking, polite BBC. Let's give his ideas their due--some serious thought and response!

Why should the public not be made aware of when an official has screwed up and has been disciplined?

Whatever happened to the old public stocks? Whenever an official makes a call that a fan, coach, or player doesn't like, they can be put in the stocks in the public square. I suppose the ol' dunce cap in the corner of the gym would work, too. C'mon, guys, are we really that afraid of opening ourselves up to the criticism of the experts?

Are you not public workers who are being paid by the tax dollars that the local community pays to the school?

Perhaps a government office to oversee the proper discipline of officials would be in order, since we're apparently employed by the government. Sort of like the CIA. How about the BOOB--Board Of Official Bashing. I have a nomination for head BOOB!