"Fat" officials

[CLAY]

Smitty,

Just like to make a point, no hard feelings here. This subject just so happens to be a hot button of mine.
And as far as the "T" question. I have given out 1 and that was to a player for show poor sportmanship.

Beleive it or not Smitty my goal at the begining of the season is not to give any.

[CLAY]

canuckrefguy,

Maybe I came across to harsh in explaining what I witnessed. Next time I'll show a video!!!!!!!!!!!

[Smitty]

Well then perhaps I judged you unfairly. Ironic, isn't it? How we judge people on one specific nit that may or not be a fair interpretation of that person's skills? I think I understand your original point a lot better now than when I started responding to this thread. I simply agree with canuckrefguy in that the way you delivered the message. I think giving specific examples of what they did improperly would have driven your point home a lot better than making a generic statement that they "sucked" because they are "fat" and were breathing heavy.

[TPS2859]

My eyes are hurting, we've went from "fat" to "T's" in 4 pages!

[CLAY]

Smitty,


Just to let you know. Rainmaker says I come across to stong also. I think it just my demeanor.

Got to go I have a game tonight......................

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally posted by CLAY
You try to do what it takes to get the upper level games. You read and read the rules, you know them forwards and backwards, go to camps, you work in front of the mirror to practice your mech. You ask other officials to give you feed back. People in this forum talk about how important appearance is. Beltless pants, high gloss shoes, no facial hair, etc. Then can someone tell me why over weight officials are getting the varsity games.

Last Night I went to watch a local high school basketball tournament. Championship game. The three officials must of had a combined weight of 750lbs or more. Their guts hung way over their pants and their shirts were stretched way past the limit the manufacture ever intended the fabric to withstand. These guys were slow, out of breath, sweating like 3 stuffed pigs. They must be great officials.

I resemble that remark.

MTD, Sr.

[ace]

Clay, have you ever stopped and given yourself a personal evaluation? There must be some reasons that ur not getting the higher games... the way you talk to coaches, handle yourself on the court... I was told the other day that my on court presence, demeanour, how i handle coaches and players has changed soo much since I ditched the lanyards. It makes me slow down and think more and I tell ya what, my over all officiating has gotten better too....

So maybe instead of asking why they get games and such - find out what you need to work on to get there.

[Rich]

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I resemble that remark.

MTD, Sr.

The great official part, or the rest?

I had a real runner of a 3-man game tonight. Home team scored about 90. For about 3 minutes in the third quarter it was non-stop up and down from trail to lead. My gut stayed in my pants and I didn't get winded, for those of you that care. I did sweat a little. I'll try to do better next time.

However, I did smack into some too-cool-to-use-the-walkway HS kid who decided to walk out of the gym during a live ball and use the playing court to do so. I was going from C to C quick on a break and didn't see him until after I smacked right into him. Bounced right off of me. Good thing I'm not thin as a rail, huh?

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by CLAY
Smitty,


Just to let you know. Rainmaker says I come across to stong also. I think it just my demeanor.

Got to go I have a game tonight......................

Clay, Smitty and I worked together this week, and it went pretty well. I'm also admiring his spelling and grammar. So it might appear as though I would take his side. But I am very impressed that you have backed down a little over the course of this thread. That's a sterling quality that not everyone has, and you will find that life gets a lot easier when you can use it a little earlier in a discussion. My guess is that you will grow up into a fine man, especially if you keep up the self-evaluation effort.

[BK]

As a BIG guy...I'm sorry that I got in on this post so late...but let me give some perspective from the other side!

I'm 34 years old, I'm 6-3 and I weigh about 280 during basketball season. I wear a 46 pant and a 3X shirt. My gut doesnt' hang over my beltless slacks, and I can see the gloss on my shoes if I' bend just a little at the waist! I'm not the slowest guy in our chapter of 100, but I'm probably at the top of the top 10!!! I've been officiating since I was 20.

I figured out several years ago that in order to advance and do a good job, I was going to have to work really hard. My handicap in appearance, must be compensated for in judgement and hustle. So, yes, I do sweat like a pig sometimes when my skinny young partner is on cruise control! It took my assignment secretary a couple of years to realize that I could work just about any game in our area. I'm sure that there are some "young bucks" in our chapter that feel like they should be in my games...and I think that there are some guys in higher games that aren't as good as I am. That occurs in officiating regardless of size! It takes a tremendous amount of ego (confidence) to officiate...and we all have a hard time setting that ego aside when it comes to working games. I don't know too many referees that openly admit that they have no business in a higer game!!! Do you???

Anyway...what is the bottom line? For me, it is this: Can the guy referee the game? Is he respected, does he hustle, will he make the tough calls at the tough times (experience)? If the answer to those questions is yes...then he gets the game...even if he could stand to lose a few pounds.

[refjef40]

Back to what someone touched on earlier about moving up.A guy in my assoc. who has years of experience and is a great ref does j.c. and d3.He was told lose weight and you will be d1 and not until.Like whoever said it to Clay you might get good h.s. games but you can only go so far if you don't look good.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by BK
I don't know too many referees that openly admit that they have no business in a higer game!!! Do you???

Here's how to admit it, without admitting it.

"In an emergency, I think I could pull my own weight, and get the job done."