Oh Bleep!

[stan-MI]

What can you do after your partner calls a totally unjustified technical foul in the final minute of a tie game? Boys varsity game. Team A is holding the ball for the last shot. B1 goes for a steal and commits a foul. No complaints from anybody about the call. B1 chases the ball down and, on his way back toward the calling official, bounces the ball hard and catches it on the way up three times. No words, no gestures, no facial expressions, no delays. Still, my partner gives B1 a T. To compound matters, it was B1's fifth foul.

Other than listen to Coach B, what can you do? Once the T's out of the can, you can't really put it back in.

[Edited by stan-MI on Jan 14th, 2004 at 10:03 AM]

[ref18]

You support your partners decision, and talk about it in your post-game review.

[mick]

Originally posted by stan-MI
What can you do after your partner calls a totally unjustified technical foul in the final minute of a tie game? Boys varsity game. Team A is holding the ball for the last shot. B1 goes for a steal and commits a foul. No complaints from anybody about the call. B1 chases the ball down and, on his way back toward the calling official, bounces the ball hard and catches it on the way up three times. No words, no gestures, no facial expressions, no delays. Still, my partner gives B1 a T. To compound matters, it was B1's fifth foul.

Other than listen to Coach B, what can you do? Once the T's out of the can, you can't really put it back in.

stan-MI,
Was there that "All-Quiet-Stunned-Audience" sound emanating from the fans?
mick

[pizanno]

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[stan-MI]

Originally posted by mick
Was there that "All-Quiet-Stunned-Audience" sound emanating from the fans?
mick

Actually, the call favored the home team. I was the one with the "All-Quiet-Stunned" look.

[TriggerMN]

Suck it up. You're a team out there, and you're screwed either way. If it was really that bad, do what a buddy of mine did once on an equally bad call...walk up to the coach and say, "Coach, you've got 30 seconds to say whatever you want to me without penalty. Then I'm walking away."

Nothing more you can really do, besides make it a learning experience for your partner after the game. That and get an escort out to your car.

[mick]

Originally posted by stan-MI

Actually, the call favored the home team. I was the one with the "All-Quiet-Stunned" look.

You deserve it. You get all the good games anyways!
And, too, we can pick our nose and pick our friends, but not always pick our partners.

[stan-MI]

I just got my partner out of the way to administer the FTs to avoid any confrontation with the coach. Then I let the coach vent, finished the game and waited for the call from the supervisor.

I don't think my partner will make that call again in that situation.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally posted by TriggerMN
If it was really that bad, do what a buddy of mine did once on an equally bad call...walk up to the coach and say, "Coach, you've got 30 seconds to say whatever you want to me without penalty. Then I'm walking away."

Ooooo, I like that one. I'm gonna have to use that sometime.

Great idea!

[dblref]

Originally posted by canuckrefguy

Ooooo, I like that one. I'm gonna have to use that sometime.

Great idea!

I did this earlier this year but I told the coach.."don't yell or swear".

[JeffTheRef]

here's what I would do.

I would go to my partner and have a heart to heart talk. Perhaps I could convince her/him the T was unwarranted. Perhaps s/he would tell me something I hadn't seen. If it turns out EVEN S/HE, upon reflection, thought it was unwarranted,
I would go to the table, tell them the foul call was actually an inadvertent whistle, and put the ball back in play without discussion.

Except in the tournament . . . I might not do it then . . . but maybe . . . nothing, absolutely nothing, supercedes trying to get a fair game.

[cmathews]

Originally posted by JeffTheRef
here's what I would do.

I would go to my partner and have a heart to heart talk. Perhaps I could convince her/him the T was unwarranted. Perhaps s/he would tell me something I hadn't seen. If it turns out EVEN S/HE, upon reflection, thought it was unwarranted,
I would go to the table, tell them the foul call was actually an inadvertent whistle, and put the ball back in play without discussion.

Except in the tournament . . . I might not do it then . . . but maybe . . . nothing, absolutely nothing, supercedes trying to get a fair game.

While I agree in part, if your partner makes the call of a T then I support them wholeheartedly for the crowd to see. I may go to the coach with the let em vent, I would in no way say i disagree with my partner. Talking to them after the T is signalled is too late..... IMHO

[Kevzebra]

Sounds like someone was having a very bad day!

[RookieDude]

Originally posted by JeffTheRef
I would go to the table

A Veteran once told me:

...let the official that is going to change the call, make the change. Therefore, let the calling official change his/her call after you both have huddled.

RD

[canuckrefguy]

Can you really "un-ring the bell" on this one?

You've already made a clear foul call, and a T, in plain view, for all to see. One team clearly could benefit and/or win the game because of it. What if that coach insisted on shooting the T?

I agree fair is fair, but you're potentially opening up a super-sized can o'worms.