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White couldn't have lost this game if they'd have walked off the court at the end of the third quarter.
Middle of second quarter, green gets a break, passes the ball downcourt to player all alone who bobbles the ball a couple of times, dribbles once and actually made a lay-up. I called nothing. White fans and coach go crazy wanting a travel. I said, "Coach, she didn't have control of the ball." He says, "I know she didn't have control, but it's still a travel." Sheez... P.S. Brilliant dad in stands yells, "What rule book are you using anyway?" 
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Tue Dec 30, 2003, 08:58am
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Had a coach last night just crack me up! His girls were getting beat by 30 in the 3rd quarter and he says, "Sheila, DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR SPOT! We have got to have road blocks and tire spikes to stop these girls!"
I went past him still laughing, and said, "I can honestly say that I've never heard the term "tire spikes" in a basketball game!"
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Tue Dec 30, 2003, 09:48am
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rainmaker...have had similar bs from the stands lately...last time during a to, the 'loud fan' was down beside my lower block area. i turned to him and asked which one was his son...he said "number 34". i instantly called 2 fouls on 34, and slyly pointed to his dad in the stands. he was quiet the rest of the game.
this shouldn't happen...but sometimes we have to abuse the whistle...
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Tue Dec 30, 2003, 10:45am
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Tue Dec 30, 2003, 11:51am
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Tue Dec 30, 2003, 12:26pm
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So Dad made you mad,so what.Did you ever think what Dad's behavior does to his kid? I've had players near tears because of their parent's behavior,so you suggest that,"Sometimes we have to abuse the whistle," and take it out on the player that is probably as mad at their dad as you are. You either ignore it or get game management to remove the fan,but you NEVER make up stuff to get even.If you do think that it is okay,you should not be officiating.
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Tue Dec 30, 2003, 01:21pm
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If not, you should hang up the whistle. Permanently.
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Tue Dec 30, 2003, 04:00pm
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Tue Dec 30, 2003, 04:27pm
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I agree, this is an awful abuse of the whistle. And no, we never "have to abuse the whistle." Your little power trip hurts the reputation of all who wear the stripes, and it degrades all of us as well. The only redeeming part is that Dad now knows how vindictive you are, and I hope he reported your a$$ to the league, assignor, or whomever is appropriate.
You need to drop your ego off in your car and remember your pride isn't bigger than the game.
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Tue Dec 30, 2003, 04:48pm
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I know I've had coaches/fans screaming and hollering for a particular call... there has been a time or two when I made the call they were requesting... in the other team's favor. Coach incessantly yelling for 3-seconds... again, and again, and again... okay coach I'll give you a 3-second call. Wanna set down and coach your kids yet? ... and let me officiate? jr didn't say he made up the calls - only that he made them... (I imagine the use of the word "instantly" wasn't quite so instantaneous in reality... you can't call two fouls on someone during a timeout. I suspect that Dad was wanting a particular call that both teams were committing and so jr likely called what Dad asked for... Don't know, but perhaps as a whole we are being a little harsh on jr.
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Tue Dec 30, 2003, 04:57pm
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If that's the case, one foul would have sufficed. Also, I doubt he would have so cavalierly used the phrase "abuse the whistle." I could be wrong, and his post is surely incomplete with regard to the situation as it really transpired, but it doesn't look good.
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Tue Dec 30, 2003, 05:08pm
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in his post that has any redeeming quality.I don't see how you can read anything into it that suggests that it was not getting even with Dad by calling stuff against his kid on purpose.When you use,"Instantly,slyly,and abuse of your whistle," in a post you are asking to get heat. We have all had the,"Be careful what you ask for coach," situations,but that is a long way from intentionally calling 2 fouls because the kid's dad pissed you off,just to one up the loud mouth. It is an abuse of power,it is unprofessional,it makes ALL officials look bad,and even if it was not all of those things,it is stupid because it punishes an innocent kid because their dad is a jerk.
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Wed Dec 31, 2003, 02:53am
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wow..i didn't think the post would get this much heat...
i would do it again, when the situation warranted... i am an experienced official. i would not just MAKE UP a call, but if the call needed to be made, and i could stick it to the fan and the player, i would do it in a heartbeat...
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