count the basket or wave it off?

sleebo · #1 (**permalink**) Sat Dec 20, 2003, 10:56pm

Just got back from watching a varsity holiday invitational game in my area. Here's the situation that got me thinking:
A1 recieves pass in the post and goes up for the layup. B1 fouls A1 on the way up and the ball leaves A1's hands, coming up well short. As he hangs in the air, A1 is able to grab the ball and try again a second time. This one goes in and the calling official flushes the "and one". Is this correct?

mick · #2 (**permalink**) Sat Dec 20, 2003, 11:08pm

BktBallRef · #3 (**permalink**) Sat Dec 20, 2003, 11:11pm

No, incredibly, he is not correct.

When the ball comes back down, it's apparent that the attempt is unsuccessful. A basket can longer be scored.

David B · #4 (**permalink**) Sun Dec 21, 2003, 12:03am

So he was the calling official, but his partner should have alerted him that he had a possible mistake.

I'm sure he was wondering why the coaches were so upset about the call also ...

If I'm his partner I'm at least going to tell him what I saw and then let him make a more informed decision.

Thanks
David

canuckrefguy · #5 (**permalink**) Sun Dec 21, 2003, 12:24am

Whoops...

Jurassic Referee · #6 (**permalink**) Sun Dec 21, 2003, 04:38am

Quote:

Originally posted by mick

Ref Daddy · #7 (**permalink**) Sun Dec 21, 2003, 11:02am

Whistle stops the play and that "try"

No basket.

Jurassic Referee · #8 (**permalink**) Sun Dec 21, 2003, 11:18am

Quote:

Originally posted by Ref Daddy

Whistle stops the play and that "try"

No, the whistle does NOT stop the play or the try. The try continues until it ends. See R6-7EXCEPTION3. As BBRef said, the play and the try "stopped" or ended when it is certain that the try would be unsuccessful- Rule4-40-4. The first try was unsuccessful when the shooter grabbed the ball again, and then started his second try.