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stewcall Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:18pm

I had a veteran come up to me last week and said I was improperly placing the ball after the ball went out of bounds under the basket (3 sec lane area) He stated just keep the ball on the lead side (2 man) no matter if the ball goes out on either side of the basket (3 sec lane area)

This seems lazy to me. If the ball goes out closer to the lane away from the lead then shouldn't the lead cross over and the Trail move to the other side of the Court

Stewcall
CVBOA in VA

Bart Tyson Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:20pm

Yes, you are correct the ball always is put in play at the nearest spot oob.

zebraman Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:21pm

Yep, the vet is lazy and incorrect.

Z

stewcall Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:25pm

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Originally posted by zebraman
Yep, the vet is lazy and incorrect.

Z

thanks !
Stewcall

belcantor Fri Dec 19, 2003 02:58pm

OOB under the basket
 
Isn't it acceptable when there is no defensive pressure to bounce pass to the player waiting to inbound the ball on the correct side of the key without forcing your partner to trade sides?

Bart Tyson Fri Dec 19, 2003 03:00pm

Yes, only for a backcourt situation.

Camron Rust Fri Dec 19, 2003 05:14pm

Count me as a little lazy then. :)

I don't take it on a strict line down the middle of the lane. I break it up more into thirds. If it is in near the middle (roughly the middle third), I choose the side. If it is in either outer third, I go to that side. I figure my view from a good lead position usually does not give me that precise of a view of the exact spot anyway.

However, I see many take it completely across the lane from where it went out....that's truly lazy.

Adam Fri Dec 19, 2003 06:01pm

One thing to remember is that a lot of teams have specific plays set up for each side of the court. If they are entitled to a specific spot, we need to give it to them.

Hawks Coach Fri Dec 19, 2003 06:05pm

You beat me to it!
 
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Originally posted by Snaqwells
One thing to remember is that a lot of teams have specific plays set up for each side of the court. If they are entitled to a specific spot, we need to give it to them.
You must NEVER forget this!

Kelvin green Fri Dec 19, 2003 07:01pm

OK I'll stir the pot
 
If the ball goes OOB away from lead, why cant lead go across the paint and hand in the ball (Trail stays where they are at)? You are just doing a strong side mechanic... Ball is still boxed in- Trail has off ball and any funky weakside stuff. Lead has the stuff in front of him..


ChuckElias Sat Dec 20, 2003 10:02am

Re: OOB under the basket
 
If the ball goes OOB inside the lane, you're allowed to put the ball in play on either side. The lane is not divided down the middle, so that if it goes out to the left of the basket, you put the ball in play to the left of the basket. As long as the ball goes out inside the lane, it's perfectly acceptable to put it back in play without forcing your partner to rotate across the court.

Now, if the ball goes OOB outside the lane, across the lane from the Lead, then absolutely put the ball in play on that side of the basket and force your partner to rotate across the court.

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Originally posted by belcantor
Isn't it acceptable when there is no defensive pressure to bounce pass to the player waiting to inbound the ball on the correct side of the key without forcing your partner to trade sides?
Quote:

Originally posted by Bart]
Yes, only for a backcourt situation.
Only in the NBA, Bart. Don't do this in HS or NCAA games.

ChuckElias Sat Dec 20, 2003 10:04am

Re: OK I'll stir the pot
 
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Originally posted by Kelvin green
If the ball goes OOB away from lead, why cant lead go across the paint and hand in the ball (Trail stays where they are at)? You are just doing a strong side mechanic...
This is what we used to do, right Kelvin? And in fact, it's still the pro 2-whistle mechanic, I think. But now FED wants the Lead to be ball side as much as possible. Since the ball is starting there, they figure the Lead should start there, too, I guess.

Bart Tyson Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:14am

Re: Re: OOB under the basket
 
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Originally posted by ChuckElias


Quote:

Originally posted by belcantor
Isn't it acceptable when there is no defensive pressure to bounce pass to the player waiting to inbound the ball on the correct side of the key without forcing your partner to trade sides?
Quote:

Originally posted by Bart]
Yes, only for a backcourt situation.
Only in the NBA, Bart. Don't do this in HS or NCAA games.

Maybe I missed something. The mechanics in HS and NCAA Women's say we can Bounce the ball accross the lane in the BC. Am I miss reading the question?

ChuckElias Sat Dec 20, 2003 01:38pm

Re: Re: Re: OOB under the basket
 
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Originally posted by Bart Tyson
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by belcantor
Isn't it acceptable when there is no defensive pressure to bounce pass to the player waiting to inbound the ball on the correct side of the key without forcing your partner to trade sides?
Quote:

Originally posted by Bart]
Yes, only for a backcourt situation.
Only in the NBA, Bart. Don't do this in HS or NCAA games.

Maybe I missed something. The mechanics in HS and NCAA Women's say we can Bounce the ball accross the lane in the BC. Am I miss reading the question?

Sigh. My tagline should say something about how all my NCAA references are for men. The women's mechanics are very similar to the pro mechanics, so you're probably right about NCCAW being allowed to bounce across the lane.

As for HS and NCAAM, my original statement is correct. You are NOT allowed to bounce the ball across the lane for a throw-in. I don't have this year's NCAA mechanics manual (CCA, or whatever it is); but the Fed Official's Manual says: "All throw-ins on either end line shall be made with the administering official outside the thrower -- between the sideline and the thrower." (paragraph 218) and "When administering throw-ins on the end line and remaining in the front court, handing the ball to the thrower is recommended." (paragraph 220).

Bart Tyson Sat Dec 20, 2003 07:14pm

Was this a change this year for NF?


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