I had a veteran come up to me last week and said I was improperly placing the ball after the ball went out of bounds under the basket (3 sec lane area) He stated just keep the ball on the lead side (2 man) no matter if the ball goes out on either side of the basket (3 sec lane area)

This seems lazy to me. If the ball goes out closer to the lane away from the lead then shouldn't the lead cross over and the Trail move to the other side of the Court

Stewcall
CVBOA in VA

Yes, you are correct the ball always is put in play at the nearest spot oob.

Yep, the vet is lazy and incorrect.

Z

thanks !
Stewcall

OOB under the basket
 

Isn't it acceptable when there is no defensive pressure to bounce pass to the player waiting to inbound the ball on the correct side of the key without forcing your partner to trade sides?

Yes, only for a backcourt situation.

Count me as a little lazy then. :)

I don't take it on a strict line down the middle of the lane. I break it up more into thirds. If it is in near the middle (roughly the middle third), I choose the side. If it is in either outer third, I go to that side. I figure my view from a good lead position usually does not give me that precise of a view of the exact spot anyway.

However, I see many take it completely across the lane from where it went out....that's truly lazy.

One thing to remember is that a lot of teams have specific plays set up for each side of the court. If they are entitled to a specific spot, we need to give it to them.

You beat me to it!
 

You must NEVER forget this!

OK I'll stir the pot
 

If the ball goes OOB away from lead, why cant lead go across the paint and hand in the ball (Trail stays where they are at)? You are just doing a strong side mechanic... Ball is still boxed in- Trail has off ball and any funky weakside stuff. Lead has the stuff in front of him..

Re: OOB under the basket
 

If the ball goes OOB inside the lane, you're allowed to put the ball in play on either side. The lane is not divided down the middle, so that if it goes out to the left of the basket, you put the ball in play to the left of the basket. As long as the ball goes out inside the lane, it's perfectly acceptable to put it back in play without forcing your partner to rotate across the court.

Now, if the ball goes OOB outside the lane, across the lane from the Lead, then absolutely put the ball in play on that side of the basket and force your partner to rotate across the court.

Only in the NBA, Bart. Don't do this in HS or NCAA games.

Re: OK I'll stir the pot
 

This is what we used to do, right Kelvin? And in fact, it's still the pro 2-whistle mechanic, I think. But now FED wants the Lead to be ball side as much as possible. Since the ball is starting there, they figure the Lead should start there, too, I guess.

Re: Re: OOB under the basket
 

Maybe I missed something. The mechanics in HS and NCAA Women's say we can Bounce the ball accross the lane in the BC. Am I miss reading the question?

Re: Re: Re: OOB under the basket
 

Sigh. My tagline should say something about how all my NCAA references are for men. The women's mechanics are very similar to the pro mechanics, so you're probably right about NCCAW being allowed to bounce across the lane.

As for HS and NCAAM, my original statement is correct. You are NOT allowed to bounce the ball across the lane for a throw-in. I don't have this year's NCAA mechanics manual (CCA, or whatever it is); but the Fed Official's Manual says: "All throw-ins on either end line shall be made with the administering official outside the thrower -- between the sideline and the thrower." (paragraph 218) and "When administering throw-ins on the end line and remaining in the front court, handing the ball to the thrower is recommended." (paragraph 220).

Was this a change this year for NF?

Been this way for as long as I've done HS, which is 12 years now.

OOB under the basket
 

"As for HS and NCAAM, my original statement is correct. You are NOT allowed to bounce the ball across the lane for a throw-in. I don't have this year's NCAA mechanics manual (CCA, or whatever it is); but the Fed Official's Manual says: "All throw-ins on either end line shall be made with the administering official outside the thrower -- between the sideline and the thrower." (paragraph 218) and "When administering throw-ins on the end line and remaining in the front court, handing the ball to the thrower is recommended." (paragraph 220)."

Not to play the devil's advocate or throw unnecessary fuel on the fire, but the rule doesn't state that the preferred position is between the nearer sideline and the thrower; and a position "outside the thrower" could easily be interpreted as being certain that the thrower is bracketed by the lead and trail officials. In my opinion the positioning requirements should be more explicitly stated.

???? No bounce with no pressure???
 

I don't have this years mechanics manual but I'm looking at the NFHS 2001-2003 Manual

220 starts out "The administering official shall hand or BOUNCE the ball to the thrower... When adminstering throw-ins on the side line, a bounce is recommended. When administering throw-ins on the end line and remaining in the front court, handing the ball to the thrower is recommended. (This last line suggests to me that if you are not staying in the frontcourt, a bounce is okay.)

Diagrams 17, 18, 19, & 21 all show opportunities for making a bounce pass.

Nowhere does the manual show bouncing the pass across the key but in my opinion (and it appears to be my opinion only)if you are in the backcourt, there is no pressure by the defense, your partner is on the other side of the court boxing in, and the thrower is across the key... who cares? Bounce him the ball and get going.

I had an evaluator give me the business about this a couple of weeks ago, so I'm going to re-ask the question. If it is only RECOMMENDED that you hand the ball to the thrower on the front-court baseline, then you CAN bounce it, correct? And as long as you have the players boxed in, you're good, correct?

I was actually rotating across and he asked me why and then directly, "What does your officials manual say?" I went home and looked it up. From the word recommended (and the evaluator's strong assertion) I concluded that you could bounce it across the key. If I go back to him with the cite from the book, how would I argue that you CAN'T do this?