Okay, I Just Plain Blew It!

[Kelvin green]

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser
Kelvin,

When you are lead and the ball goes out on the baseline in the trail's primary (C's primary in 3-official), do you expect the T (C) to make that call?

This mechanic is what the Referee books recommend, but I think the FED has it right. Lead has the baseline and closest sideline all the way down -- trail has the sideline and backcourt line. If doubt, consult partner.

Rich

Rich ... never suggested anything of the sort. Suggested that Trail has primary shot above FT Line extended only.

By book you are right about the two sidelines, and this is a gray area, but i have been in too many games where lead has made the long distance call and been wrong...

I had a game a couple of years back I am trail at 28" mark right in front of a A coach. A1 was isolated FT line extended right in front of me. Partner had not completely settled with the strong side, and he had not clearly come across to take it... Ball was passed by A1 to A2. B1 jumps up with legs extended. Ball may have brushed his leg (to this date I am not sure) My partner from lead calls the kick. It may have been the exact height call I dont know, however the B coach. immediately yells at my partner : if you call that who is watching Off ball? Now if I blow that call Coach A yells at me, all I have to say is I did not see it, I was watching for a backside pick to develop and missed the kick. Sorry.. Instead Coach B really did want an answer and it was a legitimate question, at the next time out he approaches my partner and asks same question (he was a little hot, but nothing more than usual) we ended up with a T, a near ejection... It got ugly quick. I had to agree if my partner calls the kick, even if he does see this its a place they should not be looking.

I have had partners adamant about following the fed book, and I can work with that. I have had on more than one occasion, the ball go OOB. I turn and at my partner, and they still did not have a whistle. I still had to blow it because they did not have an idea it had went out.

Either way we do it- you can have issues in the game ( go figure we need 3 person crews on most games above 8th grade) we just need Bill Gates to fund the... ALL NF GAMES NEED THRE REFS FOUNDATION..