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BktBallRef Wed Dec 10, 2003 05:21pm

Quote:

Originally posted by davidw
I guess I didn't make clear his wording of "Come on..shoot it! Shoot the ball!" The part that tipped it over for me was the "Come on.." part.

I've seen/heard that expression used expressly in taunting others into a fight in other circumstances.

That combined with the facial expressions, volume and repeatedness preciptated my warning.

Doesn't matter whether he says, "Come on!" or not in my book. He has no business talking to an opponent in this manner.

Hawks Coach Wed Dec 10, 2003 05:56pm

I know that many players say shoot-it, and I will against my own players to get their goat in a scrimmage or in a pick-up game with friends. But I don't want my players talking to the opposition in a real game - ever. If I want to encourage a player to shoot, I will do so in how we play defense. We will leave a notoriously bad shooter open and invite them to shoot. But we will do so through action (or more appropriately, inaction!) not words.

Adam Wed Dec 10, 2003 06:31pm

When playing pick-up ball, I'll use this tactic, with less volume and no malice. However, I'll only use this if I'm comfortable friends with my opponent (such as my brother.) I still wouldn't allow it in organized ball. As has been pointed out, it's baiting.

williebfree Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:10pm

I agree
 
I agree that this player's actions are antagonistic taunting and inappropriate as described by DavidW.

Many of you agree as well... however, not all of you have said how you would handle it... warning or T?

For the record: I would quiety warn and then T if it occurred again.

rainmaker Thu Dec 11, 2003 09:28am

Had an 8th grade boys game last night where the fans were doing this, along with laughing when the opponent couldn't do anything right, and false counting down, like "5!!... 4!!... 3!..." etc. We warned the home coach a couple of times, and he tried hard to keep it under control.

With players, I would warn first, as david did, and then T if it happened again.

TPS2859 Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:14am

GOD gives many people the ability to play at a higher level than the average joe. To miss use this ability is truly a crime in itself. So where did the bad sportmanship manafest itself from? I think a warning to the coach also would be in order for I'm shur he knows whats going on the court and appears to be condoning it!

ChuckElias Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:23am

When I hear stuff I don't like, my line to the player is always "If I think you're taunting, you get tossed. Don't make me decide, ok?"

Hawks Coach Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:45pm

Re: I agree
 
Quote:

Originally posted by williebfree
I agree that this player's actions are antagonistic taunting and inappropriate as described by DavidW.

Many of you agree as well... however, not all of you have said how you would handle it... warning or T?

For the record: I would quiety warn and then T if it occurred again.

Warn. T.

Adam Thu Dec 11, 2003 02:53pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
When I hear stuff I don't like, my line to the player is always "If I think you're taunting, you get tossed. Don't make me decide, ok?"
Chuck, I like this. Thanks.

Adam


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