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mick Mon Dec 01, 2003 04:28pm

yes.
 
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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
The 6 feet rule is written by NF for HS players. The game is very different in 4th grade rec than in varsity HS. I am not clear why some are being so tight about the 6 feet rule. If there was ever a place for a little elastic, that would be one. Just like 3 secs might be alittle longer at that level :)
Although I can well judge 6'-0", my 6'0" rule is generally < 5'0". I wanna make sure of that call, cuz I call it a lot.
I use a similar premise for the 10 second count with the ball still in the air over the division line.
mick


Adam Mon Dec 01, 2003 04:48pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawks Coach
The 6 feet rule is written by NF for HS players. The game is very different in 4th grade rec than in varsity HS. I am not clear why some are being so tight about the 6 feet rule. If there was ever a place for a little elastic, that would be one. Just like 3 secs might be alittle longer at that level :)
I agree, coach. The lower the level, the slower I seem to count (most coaches and league administrators prefer it that way). The kids aren't going to learn anything if you take the ball out of their hands every trip down. You have to pick your battles at that level. That's why it is, in many respects, more difficult to officiate the lower levels. It's been said in other threads that the higher you get, the easier the games are to officiate. The main reason, I think, is that you don't have to pick and choose which violations and fouls to call.

ChuckElias Mon Dec 01, 2003 05:05pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawks Coach
The 6 feet rule is written by NF for HS players. The game is very different in 4th grade rec than in varsity HS. I am not clear why some are being so tight about the 6 feet rule.
Coach, again I let my narrow experience get in the way of a broader discussion. "In my area", closely guarded rules are completely disregarded below the 7th grade level. So in my head, I was thinking this discussion was about 7th/8th grade games, or freshman games where you get really small kids.

So, let me restate. I couldn't care less how you call the closely guarded rule in a 4th grade game. However, in any HS game, regardless of the skill level or size of the players, the 6 foot rule should be applied as strictly as possible.

And some of us are tight about it b/c we've had a really lousy day. Sorry.

Back In The Saddle Mon Dec 01, 2003 07:16pm

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Originally posted by Mregor
...There as several reverences on the floor as well...
Ah, you must be working a lot of church leagues?

rainmaker Mon Dec 01, 2003 08:05pm

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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
Quote:

Originally posted by Mregor
...There as several reverences on the floor as well...
Ah, you must be working a lot of church leagues?

LOL, bits, thanks!!

Luv4Asian8 Wed Dec 03, 2003 05:26pm

To Basket or Not To Basket? That is the Q.
 
I'm still a rookie...:D

My first recollection was that obviously if a player holds/dribbles in ONE SPOT with a <6ft distance Def. without making an effort to pass/shoot/drive to basket, CG is enforced.

But now that I'm gaining a lil more exp., is it true that WHETHER OR NOT they are heading toward the basket, and there is a <6ft distance Def., CG is enforced anyway?

clarification pls.

Adam Wed Dec 03, 2003 05:34pm

This rule is enforced regardless of whether they are moving. If the defense is within 6 feet of the ball handler, they have 5 seconds to hold it, another 5 seconds to dribble, and another 5 seconds to hold. Once your count hits 5, blow the whistle. Had one last night early. Defense picked up the point guard right at half court. Went straight from a back court count to a closely guarded count. Blew the whistle as the dribbler calmly dribbled to the left elbow. Same dribbler gave me two easy carry calls, too.


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