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A "Late" whistle? As long as you get it right you're in fine shape. If it takes an extra second to figure out that you're in fine shape, then so be it. Know what you have and don't be afraid to let something develop before blowing your whistle.

Just something to think about.

maz

What's the signal for illegal screen?

There are many instances where a foul or violation is indicated in the rule book, but there is no clear signal. For instance, for an illegal screen. What is the mechanics for this call? What's the signal? I guess in the instance where the screener dislodges a player we can call it a push.

Since I'm on the subject about mechanics, what signal is used when a jump ball violation is called? IS there one? For example, I've just blown the whistle to indicate play is about to start. While in the process of tossing the ball but before it leaves my hand, A1 moves in front of B1. This is a violation. B1 should get the throw-in and the AP set toward A's basket when the ball is made available to team B. What's the appropriate mechanics for this and similar jump ball situations?

Thanks!
P.S. I'm a rookie and my first game is this Saturday!

Re: What's the signal for illegal screen?

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Originally posted by rwest
There are many instances where a foul or violation is indicated in the rule book, but there is no clear signal. For instance, for an illegal screen. What is the mechanics for this call? What's the signal? I guess in the instance where the screener dislodges a player we can call it a push.

Usually a block. Could be a hold, a push, or a PC foul.

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Since I'm on the subject about mechanics, what signal is used when a jump ball violation is called? IS there one? For example, I've just blown the whistle to indicate play is about to start. While in the process of tossing the ball but before it leaves my hand, A1 moves in front of B1. This is a violation. B1 should get the throw-in and the AP set toward A's basket when the ball is made available to team B. What's the appropriate mechanics for this and similar jump ball situations?

Thanks!
P.S. I'm a rookie and my first game is this Saturday!

Blow the whistle, explain what happened, inbound the ball.

Re: What's the signal for illegal screen?

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There is no signal for an "illegal screen". All such infractions must involved contact and are actually fouls. It could be a push, block, or hold, illegal use of hands, or a handcheck depending on the specific action...usually a block.

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Originally posted by rwest

Since I'm on the subject about mechanics, what signal is used when a jump ball violation is called? IS there one?

There is no specific jump ball violation signal. Just an open hand in the air with the whistle.

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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
I think that a bump off-ball is ignored much more than the same bump on-ball, in my experience. There is a lot more contact off-ball than on-ball, and very little of it is called. Most of it is technically illegal (e.g., screener not legally set, moves during screen slightly), but the standard for advantage - disadvantage off-ball is usually higher. I frequently see screeners move through the players they screen, at all levels, with no call. I'm not saying they are plowing someone over, but there is clear displacement. That same displacement by a defender against the ball would almost always merit a whistle. Refs usually look for more to happen off-ball before they call it.

That said, on-ball you may hold your whistle longer, because off-ball you need to make a quick judgment as to whether or not the advantage gained is such that you need to make a call. That was the point of my previous post. You can't wait til the pass is made to the screener who came off an illegal screen before calling that illegal screen. On-ball, you can hold the whistle a little longer to see if the contact impacted play.

I agree completely. An illegal screen off-ball doesn't get much advantage/disadvantage thought. It's impossible to put all the variables together and determine whether an advantage was gained. So don't screen illegally and I won't have to send it the other way.

Rich

While we're on the topic of screening . . . . I was reffing a game for the final week of a basketball class. A2 is setting a screen, puts his hand out, and pushes B1 (not hard or intentionally, just more of a push to the side or out of the way). I call the foul (actually signaled PC when I reported - waaaaay too much college ball in the past week :p) and A2 turns to me and says (seriously) "how am I supposed to set a screen?"

My response - "not with your hands."