NFHS Question #35

ref18 · #1 (**permalink**) Sun Nov 16, 2003, 12:39pm

Need a hand on the following question:

35. It is a violation to touch the net while the ball is on or within either basket.

PAULK1 · #2 (**permalink**) Sun Nov 16, 2003, 02:11pm

yes, see 4-6-1 and 1-10-1

nine01c · #3 (**permalink**) Sun Nov 16, 2003, 02:27pm

NFHS
This is a true statement, and the violation is basket interference. The net is part of the basket. See case book play 9.11.1 Sit. D.

ref18 · #4 (**permalink**) Sun Nov 16, 2003, 04:50pm

But the either basket part is the part that confuses me, does that have any effect on the answer??

PAULK1 · #5 (**permalink**) Sun Nov 16, 2003, 05:31pm

either has no bearing on this question because it is basket interference which can happen at anytime the ball is above,
on or within the basket(it doesn't have to be a shot to happen).

BktBallRef · #6 (**permalink**) Sun Nov 16, 2003, 05:32pm

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Originally posted by ref18
But the either basket part is the part that confuses me, does that have any effect on the answer??

"Either" simply means either of the two baskets. If Blue 24 touches the net while the ball is within his basket, it's BI, no basket. If he touches the net while the ball is within his opponnent's basket, it's BI and the basket is good.

Nevadaref · #7 (**permalink**) Sun Nov 16, 2003, 05:41pm

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Originally posted by PAULK1
either has no bearing on this question because it is basket interference which can happen at anytime the ball is above,
on or within the basket(it doesn't have to be a shot to happen).

PaulK1 probably meant this, but just to clarify... It is not BI to touch the basket while the ball is ABOVE the basket. BI can still occur though if the ball is touched while it is above the basket.

Paul LeBoutillier · #8 (**permalink**) Mon Nov 17, 2003, 08:14pm

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
"Either" simply means either of the two baskets. If Blue 24 touches the net while the ball is within his basket, it's BI, no basket. If he touches the net while the ball is within his opponnent's basket, it's BI and the basket is good.

Except that, technically speaking, defensive BI is ignored if the basket is successful. This one seems to always get the crowd. They yell, "Hey, that's a violation, right?"

The answer is "Yes, it is...but since the basket was good it's ignored."

ref18 · #9 (**permalink**) Mon Nov 17, 2003, 10:31pm

Hypothetcal Situation:
A1 Shoots, while its inside the cylinder, bi taps it, but it still goes in.

Do we blow the whistle, signal the basket was good, andgive team B the ball at the end-line, or do we just ingore it because the results would be the same.

Paul LeBoutillier · #10 (**permalink**) Mon Nov 17, 2003, 10:39pm

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Originally posted by ref18
Hypothetcal Situation:
A1 Shoots, while its inside the cylinder, b1 taps it, but it still goes in. Do we blow the whistle, signal the basket was good, andgive team B the ball at the end-line, or do we just ingore it because the results would be the same?

Yup. B1 committed BI but since the basket was good, the violation is ignored.

ref18 · #11 (**permalink**) Mon Nov 17, 2003, 10:41pm

Thanks, i always assumed that you'd blow the whistle no matter what, but now i know that if i see that to let it go.

Thanks

BktBallRef · #12 (**permalink**) Mon Nov 17, 2003, 10:58pm

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Originally posted by Paul LeBoutillier

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
"Either" simply means either of the two baskets. If Blue 24 touches the net while the ball is within his basket, it's BI, no basket. If he touches the net while the ball is within his opponnent's basket, it's BI and the basket is good.

Except that, technically speaking, defensive BI is ignored if the basket is successful. This one seems to always get the crowd. They yell, "Hey, that's a violation, right?"

The answer is "Yes, it is...but since the basket was good it's ignored."

However, we're discussing an exam question here, not what we might actually do.

ref18 · #13 (**permalink**) Mon Nov 17, 2003, 11:06pm

so let me rephrase my question.

By the book, how would my hypothetical situation be handled?

Nevadaref · #14 (**permalink**) Tue Nov 18, 2003, 12:43am

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Originally posted by ref18
so let me rephrase my question.

By the book, how would my hypothetical situation be handled?

By the book:
You would blow the whistle, award the proper points, and then allow the team which committed the violation to run the endline on the throw-in.

I'll add that near the end of a game the importance of doing it right is magnified, since calling the violation would also stop the clock!

[Edited by Nevadaref on Nov 17th, 2003 at 11:45 PM]

Dan_ref · #15 (**permalink**) Tue Nov 18, 2003, 10:49am

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Originally posted by ref18
so let me rephrase my question.

By the book, how would my hypothetical situation be handled?

It's a very poorly written question that begs to be answered FALSE simply because they have not told you WHICH net is being touched while the ball is in EITHER basket.

But the answer is yes, it's BI for players on either TEAM to touch THE net while the ball is on or within THE basket it's attached to. The result could be awarding or cancelling a score.