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bwbuddy Mon Nov 03, 2003 07:57am

What's the origin and reasoning behind the block on each side of the foul lane? In NFHS, what's the ruling if a player makes contact with the block before the foul shot attempt reaches the rim?

bob jenkins Mon Nov 03, 2003 08:27am

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Originally posted by bwbuddy
What's the origin and reasoning behind the block on each side of the foul lane? In NFHS, what's the ruling if a player makes contact with the block before the foul shot attempt reaches the rim?
1) Just a guess -- Reduce rough play between the two players (on each side) closest to the basket.

2) By rule, it's a Violation. "Contact" with the block isn't needed -- onlu breaking the plane of the block with either foot.

Jurassic Referee Mon Nov 03, 2003 08:38am

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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by bwbuddy
What's the origin and reasoning behind the block on each side of the foul lane?

Just a guess -- Reduce rough play between the two players (on each side) closest to the basket.


That was the exact reason given when they made the change to the 12" block from the 2" wide line that used to separate the spots.

TriggerMN Mon Nov 03, 2003 12:38pm

Was this change made at the same time they widened the lane because of Wilt Chamberlain's dominance of the game?

Jurassic Referee Mon Nov 03, 2003 01:54pm

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Was this change made at the same time they widened the lane because of Wilt Chamberlain's dominance of the game?
I think that it was years after they widened the lane from 6' to 12' that the blocks were introduced.It wasn't at the same time,if I remember right.

oc Mon Nov 03, 2003 09:24pm

Two years ago my league used NCAA rules. Last year we started using fed. I don't have new rule books so please help me remember the answer to this very simple question.

NCAA-players can stand on the block (Is this still true?)

HS--can they stand on the block?

--I wish the post office or whoever has our books would hurry up and get them here so I can start studying for my test.

PAULK1 Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:55pm

NCAA mens yes
NCAA women and NF no

Nevadaref Tue Nov 04, 2003 03:16am

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Originally posted by bob jenkins
By rule, it's a Violation. "Contact" with the block isn't needed -- onlu breaking the plane of the block with either foot.
However, by rulebreaking the plane with any other part of your body is legal. Even touching the court inside the lane is okay by a strict reading of the rules as long as your feet do not break the plane.

For example, if a player loses his balance and falls forward into the lane and catches himself in push-up position so that his feet never moved, this is not a violation.
99.9% of all officials will call it one though. I would likely rule it disconcertion if it was done by an opponent.

ChuckElias Tue Nov 04, 2003 10:08am

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
For example, if a player loses his balance and falls forward into the lane and catches himself in push-up position so that his feet never moved, this is not a violation.
I think I'd consider this "leaving a marked lane space". 9-1-6.

Jurassic Referee Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:25am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
For example, if a player loses his balance and falls forward into the lane and catches himself in push-up position so that his feet never moved, this is not a violation.
I think I'd consider this "leaving a marked lane space". 9-1-6.

I think that the FED rulemakers would agree with you. That fits the purpose and intent of the restrictions, imo.

Dan_ref Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:49am

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
By rule, it's a Violation. "Contact" with the block isn't needed -- onlu breaking the plane of the block with either foot.
For example, if a player loses his balance and falls forward into the lane and catches himself in push-up position so that his feet never moved, this is not a violation.
99.9% of all officials will call it one though. I would likely rule it disconcertion if it was done by an opponent.

And why do I get the feeling you would then have a foul on the poor sumna***** who tripped over the kid giving us 20?

:rolleyes:

Jurassic Referee Tue Nov 04, 2003 01:25pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
For example, if a player loses his balance and falls forward into the lane and catches himself in push-up position so that his feet never moved, this is not a violation.
99.9% of all officials will call it one though. I would likely rule it disconcertion if it was done by an opponent.
And why do I get the feeling you would then have a foul on the poor sumna***** who tripped over the kid giving us 20?

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You mean that it isn't legal for someone on the lane to go into a four-point football stance with both hands on the floor in the lane- before the ball is shot? Gives a new meaning to the term "blocking out". :D

Dan_ref Tue Nov 04, 2003 01:48pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
For example, if a player loses his balance and falls forward into the lane and catches himself in push-up position so that his feet never moved, this is not a violation.
99.9% of all officials will call it one though. I would likely rule it disconcertion if it was done by an opponent.
And why do I get the feeling you would then have a foul on the poor sumna***** who tripped over the kid giving us 20?

You mean that it isn't legal for someone on the lane to go into a four-point football stance with both hands on the floor in the lane- before the ball is shot? Gives a new meaning to the term "blocking out". :D [/B]
Interesting tactics we got developing here - A2, team mate of freethrower A1, is on the lane at the second spot. He crouches down into the football stance as the ball is released. FT misses, B1 goes for the rebound & stumbles over A2. Foul on B1. Nice, that will go a long way to cleaning up freethrows.

Elsewhere, our new tactic is to have the dribbler hop on one foot up & down the floor, going from one end to the other. Of course, he can only do this for 10 seconds. Would not want this game to slide into a state of inactivity.

Anyway...I'm surprised that more coaches don't come here to pick up these tidbits.

:confused:



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