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Zoochy Sun Aug 03, 2025 01:18am

Do you call a 2nd foul?
 
A1 drives to the basket. A1 grabs the ball with 2 hands (controls the ball).
A1 takes a step. B1 reaches and fouls A1 across the arms. The C official blows the whistle. B2 has obtained Legal Guarding Position on A1. A1 continues the drive to the basket. A1 goes airborne.
1) A1 releases the ball for a try, then creates torso/torso contact on B2. Both A1 & B2 go to the ground. The ball goes in the basket
2) A1 creates torso/torso contact on B2 then releases the ball for a try. Both A1 & B2 go to the ground. The ball goes in the basket
Should the Lead official blow the whistle and call a PC foul on A1? If so what is the ruling procedure?

SNIPERBBB Sun Aug 03, 2025 06:45am

"continues to drive"? what does that mean? if thats more than another step, we're ignoring the second foul unless a1 punches b1 or something similar.even if the A1 doesnt take another step, most likely ignoring the second foul unless its egregious.

BillyMac Sun Aug 03, 2025 01:09pm

False Double Foul ???
 
Nice question Zoochy.

False double foul?

Wave off the basket and give the shooter two free throws?

Personal fouls on both A1 and B1?

Team fouls for both Team A and Team B?

Probably technical fouls on both Head Coach A and Head Coach B?

Maybe tossing Head Coach A and Head Coach B?

BillyMac Sun Aug 03, 2025 04:07pm

You Spin Me Round (Like A Record) (Dead Or Alive, 1985) ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 1053996)
Do you call a 2nd foul?

You have to.

No choice in the situation.

It's a live ball (continuous motion) up to and including the player control foul contact after which the ball then becomes dead.

You can't ignore the second foul!

All live ball contact personal fouls, no dead ball contact intentional or flagrant technical fouls.

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Zoochy Thu Aug 07, 2025 09:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1053999)
Nice question Zoochy.

False double foul?

Wave off the basket and give the shooter two free throws?

Personal fouls on both A1 and B1?

Team fouls for both Team A and Team B?

Probably technical fouls on both Head Coach A and Head Coach B?

Maybe tossing Head Coach A and Head Coach B?

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How would you administrate the Free Throws? Line up or don't line up? How do you proceed after the last Free Throw?

SNIPERBBB Thu Aug 07, 2025 11:22am

If you go the false double route, shoot the FTs with noone alone the lane and award the ensuing throw in to B.

Raymond Thu Aug 07, 2025 11:54am

Isn't there a case played that addresses this situation?

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SNIPERBBB Thu Aug 07, 2025 03:23pm

theres an older case play thats not in the book, heres a thread on it

https://forum.officiating.com/basket...uble-foul.html

Raymond Thu Aug 07, 2025 05:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 1054012)
theres an older case play thats not in the book, heres a thread on it

https://forum.officiating.com/basket...uble-foul.html

And I don't think anything has changed in the last 16 years that nullifies or contradicts that ruling.

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