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BillyMac Tue Oct 08, 2024 09:38am

Everything ...
 
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 1052938)
Don't trust ChatGPT on anything.

I'm not foolish enough to believe everything that artificial intelligence tells me.

However, it did get this one (disqualified player and substitutes) correct.

In many other aspects of my life, I might start with ChatGPT or Wikipedia, but I always follow up with other sources.

JRutledge Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:21am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1052939)
I'm not foolish enough to believe everything that artificial intelligence tells me.

However, it did get this one (disqualified player and substitutes) correct.

In many other aspects of my life, I might start with ChatGPT or Wikipedia, but I always follow up with other sources.

I do not understand why you would use AI as a source for something that is not coming from the actual source. Maybe I am missing something as the usefulness, but that is not something I would even be using if the information is coming from the organization that makes these decisions.

Peace

BillyMac Tue Oct 08, 2024 01:21pm

Horse's Mouth ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1052940)
I do not understand why you would use AI as a source for something that is not coming from the actual source.

AI often cites a source, and then one uses that source, and other sources to confirm.

In my case I actually requested relevant NFHS rules in my question.

Once I got an answer, I kept searching sources for confirmation.

I started with AI, found some direction, then to the Forum (using the search feature), and then to NFHS.

AI gave me a head start, and in this case, it was correct, which doesn't always happen, nor do I expect it to always happen.

Someday maybe I'll ask Alexa for something other than the weather, or to play a favorite song?

I'll see how "smart" she really is?

SNIPERBBB Tue Oct 08, 2024 03:11pm

Your process was backwards then. You should always start with the original source. Then you can go to secondary sources if something isn't clear.

BillyMac Tue Oct 08, 2024 06:32pm

Lack Of Patience ...
 
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 1052942)
Your process was backwards then. You should always start with the original source. Then you can go to secondary sources if something isn't clear.

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1052882)
Are there NFHS rules or mechanics that tell the reporting official not to allow the substitutes to enter before the head coach replaces the disqualified player?

Spent two days, with no success, looking through my NFHS rule book and NFHS casebook, and then waiting for citations from Forum members, also with no success.

Got nothing. Bupkis. Zip. Nada. Zilch. Zero. Nil. Naught. Goose egg.

Tried artificial intelligence and instantly got an answer that I agreed with (so maybe I was headed in the right direction) but needed confirmation with a citation.

Knowing not to use artificial intelligence as a unilateral citations source, I doubled down on the using the Forum search feature and the Forum archived annual interpretations to come up with a confirmed citation answer.

2020-21 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations
SITUATION 10: A1 fouls out of the game. The Team A coach talks to a substitute and within 15 seconds sends the substitute to the table to report in the game. A Team B player then requests a time-out. RULING: Since a time-out may not be granted until a disqualified player is replaced, the administering official should ask the substitute at the table if he/she is the replacement for A1. If so, the time-out may be granted. If not, the substitute shall remain at the table and the coach must still replace A1 within the specified timeframe before the time-out may be granted. (3-3-1, 5-8-3b, 10-6-2)


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