Can someone please tell which state, Indiana or Illinois, is not using the thirty second rule for substitutions for disqualification? Is the rule is only for players that have become disqualified (five fouls or flagrant foul) or does it also apply to players that are injured (blood rule included) and players that have been discovered playing while wearing jewelry or other illegal equipment?

In Indiana...
 

We are abiding buy the rule...except there will be NO horn after the 30 seconds, only one after 20.

We are using the "rulebook way" this year. I guess you can only have an experiemental rule for so many years and we hit the limit. I really wish they would use the rule, because it made life so much easier. I was at first against this rule (experimental), but you would be surprised how much coaches did not waste time and make a substitution. Now we go back to the same dance and pony show that will happen during the 30 seconds to replace a DQ'd player.

Peace

Yes,Rut; a monster was created!

4 times this year the coach spent all 30 seconds replacing a player. I do not remember this happening before the clarification.

Oh, well, at least they're reading some selections in the book. :rolleyes:

mick

I don't know if this is good, mick. "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing," remember.

A little knowledge is also a 'start'. :)

Man, you are right up there with Alexander Pope! Do you have a book coming out anytime soon?

Uh, don't think so Jewel, ...left-handed, ya know. ;)

Thank you ladies and germs (I mean gentlemen) for your prompt responses.

MTD, Sr.

Germs ???

Mick, I believe that some golden age TV show host (like Milton Berle, or Sid Caeser) used to start his monologue by saying "Hello ladies and germs".
Can't remember who, however.

Mick, I believe that some golden age TV show host (like Milton Berle, or Sid Caeser) used to start his monologue by saying "Hello ladies and germs".
Can't remember who, however.
[/B][/QUOTE]'Twas Uncle Milty!

'Twas Uncle Milty! [/B][/QUOTE]

Thanks Ms Referee and Mr. Birthday,
I remember now. I did hear it on TV.
1955????
It used to be humor. ;)

Okay, I'm lost. What are we discussing here?

Last year, Illinois used an experimental NFHS rule that basically said that if coaches had to substitute for disqualified players, they had to make that substitution immediately, and did not get 30 seconds to do so. Mark was wondering if the "immediate - no 30 seconds to substitute" rule also applied to players that were directed by an official to leave the game because of injury or wearing jewelry. Mark's question remained unanswered because some nameless miscreant got the thread off-track by making an "Alexander Pope" reference. Maybe someone from Illinois can finish answering the question for Mark.

Since when does Pope Alexander have any juridisction over Fed rulings? :confused:

Oooooo, I get to be a nameless miscreant??? What fun!

Dan, do I get points for that?

O h for crying out loud Chuck...read the NEWEST Fed clarification, and you will see that they CLEARLY state that all final rulings will come from Pope Alexander... now if we can only get those darn coaches to read that clarification...

And Juulie, I think the nameless miscreant was the same ethnic group Jurassic wanted to go out and kick the other day...

Well, I'll be sending an email to Barb Jacobs to clarify the clarification!

Geeze, don't start on that. Can't even take a kick at Mick anymore. Takes all the fun out of life,

Why do ya think I left that Pope Alexander thing completely alone? :D

Btw, I allus thought that the Nameless Miscreants was a heavy metal group out of Portland..... and Juulie was Third Bimbo in that group.

Hell with that! I'm sending an e-mail to Barb Brady.

If <i>Da Queen</i> can't straighten this out, <b>no one</b> can!

No, not THIRD Bimbo. I have never taken any bimbo lessons in my life, and don't want anyone to hear me play it!

Is that Officer Barbrady, of South Park fame?

http://www.southparkspot.com/southpic/slug2.jpg

Yeah sure, Pope Alexander can make proclamations until chickens have lips but if you don't call it the way the local Bishops want it called you are NOT getting a good schedule.

Quote:

Originally posted by Anonymous Reprobate Oooooo, I get to be a nameless miscreant??? What fun! Dan, do I get points for that?

Sorry, no, you would only get points if you DIDN't enjoy it.

Most good bimbos never take lessons. They just kinda come by it naturally.

:p

And unlike unnamed miscreants, good bimbos do get points for enjoying it! :eek:

Okay, well that lets me out, then. I'm not a natural blonde, and my brain is actually quite functional.

But I am confused about one thing. I thought guys enjoyed being miscreants. If it's not fun, why do so many of them ...

Never mind. I don't like where that sentence is heading.

I feel your pain, but I've never really done one.
mick

But I am confused about one thing. I thought guys enjoyed being miscreants. If it's not fun, why do so many of them ...

[/B][/QUOTE]It's in their genes (sp?).

It's in their genes (sp?). [/B][/QUOTE]

It's in their "jeans", not "genes".

funny story from two years ago here in Texas. A game I was working, we had a 30 second substitution situation and after 20 a horn sounded. Not know that it was a warning horn, the my partner proceded to call a technical foul. Then the timer corrected the official. Substitute came immediatly and all was well. Now it is in the rule book, hopefully no more embarrasing false technical fouls.

Thank you Jurassic Referee.

"Sports do not build character. They reveal it." -- Heywood Hale Broun, sportswriter

Heywood, Jr., or Heywood, Sr.?

Yes, it applied there too.
 

It applied to all situations that the 30 seconds would be used for a substitutions under the rules. So yes, it did apply to the injured player or player with jewelry.

Peace

No idea, Mark. I didn't even know there were two of them.
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I had assumed that Dan would do a google search to clear this up, but since he didn't, I did. Apparently Heywood Hale Broun was neither Sr nor Jr. He was distinguished from his father (Heywood Broun) by his middle name, which also happened to be his mother's maiden name.

http://www.americansportscasters.com/broun.html

[Edited by ChuckElias on Nov 3rd, 2003 at 10:27 AM]