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Part I – Are These Changes Made Last Year Satisfactory?

1. Requiring the shot clock operator to sit at the scorer’s and timer’s table, if using a shot clock.

2. Clarifying that teammates must all wear like-colored uniform bottoms but may wear multiple styles.

3. Eliminating the one-and-one for common fouls beginning with the seventh team foul in the half and establishing the bonus as two free throws awarded for a common foul beginning with the team’s fifth foul in each quarter and resetting the fouls at the end of each quarter.

4. Establishing four throw-in spots when a team is retaining or gaining team control in its frontcourt due to a violation, a common foul prior to the bonus, or other stoppages in play other than an out of bounds.

5. Allowing the official administering a throw-in to the wrong team to correct the mistake before the first dead ball after the ball becomes live unless there is a change of possession.

6. Allowing a player to step out of bounds without penalty unless they are the first player to touch the ball after returning to the court or if they left the court to avoid a violation.

Part II – Observations – Have You Seen In Your Area?

1. An increase in the number of fouls committed at the end of each quarter in order to prevent an opponent from scoring if the bonus is not in effect (team has not reached its fifth team foul).

2. An increase in concern around the length of players’ fingernails.

3. Players using face paint and/or hair glitter.

4. An increase in unsporting or confrontational behavior by fans toward officials.

5. A decrease in unsporting or confrontational behavior by fans toward officials.

6. An increase in unsporting or confrontational behavior by coaches toward officials.

7. A decrease in unsporting or confrontational behavior by coaches toward officials.

8. An increase in unsporting or confrontational behavior by players toward officials.

9. A decrease in unsporting or confrontational behavior by players toward officials.

Part III – About Rules For 2024-25 – Would You Favor?

1. Requiring the game clock to stop after a made basket in the last minute of the game and overtime.

2. Requiring the visiting team jersey to be white and the home team jersey to be a contrasting dark color.

3. Limiting the head coach to only request a time-out during a dead-ball situation.

4. Removing coaching box privileges from the head coach only when the head coach receives a direct technical foul and allowing the head coach the use of the coaching box after an indirect technical foul.

5. Returning to a bonus free throw after the seventh team foul that allows a second free throw only when the first attempt is successful and two free throws after the tenth team foul each quarter.

6. Allowing a bonus free throw after the fourth team foul that allows a second free throw only when the first attempt is successful and two free throws after the sixth team foul each quarter.

7. Awarding two free throws after the sixth team foul and resetting the team foul count at the end of each quarter.

8. Establishing goaltending when the ball contacts the backboard and any part of the ball is above the rim during a field goal attempt when the ball is touched by a player as long as it has a possibility of entering the basket.

9. Establishing basket interference when a blocked shot attempt causes the ring to shake causing an unsuccessful try for goal.

10. Eliminating the penalty for dunking during pre-game and halftime warm-ups.

11. Assessing a team technical foul for dunking during pre-game warm-ups instead of a player technical foul.

12. Using the 3-point line as the determining line for if the ball is inbounded in a team’s frontcourt from the end line or at the nearest 28-foot mark on the sideline instead of the imaginary line.

13. Requiring all frontcourt throw-ins to take place at one of the four spots used for violations, fouls and other stoppages.

14. Allowing a team to advance the ball to the 28-foot mark in the team’s frontcourt upon a time-out after a made basket, securing a rebound or a change of possession with under one minute to play in the fourth quarter or overtime period.

15. Establishing a violation when a team is inbounding the ball in the frontcourt and throws the ball into the backcourt to avoid a five-second call.

16. Establishing a violation for faking being fouled (flopping).
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3. Players using face paint and/or hair glitter.
I had my first ever sighting of something like this last week in a girls game.

Everybody on the team was wearing light pastel team color eye "black".

I gave it a half of a thought for a half of a second (legal or illegal) and immediately moved on to much more important issues.

Has this become the new "thing"?
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2. Requiring the visiting team jersey to be white and the home team jersey to be a contrasting dark color.
Why the 180 degree turn here?

For the past forty-three-plus years (probably longer) the home team has worn white (light color previous to 2007-08).

If it ain't broke, why fix it?
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Why the 180 degree turn here?

For the past forty-three-plus years (probably longer) the home team has worn white (light color previous to 2007-08).

If it ain't broke, why fix it?
Some people like football / soccer rules that allow their school colors to show more at home, vs. away. I'm sure we'll see baseball / softball with the same debate.
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Some people like football / soccer rules that allow their school colors to show more at home, vs. away. I'm sure we'll see baseball / softball with the same debate.
I cannot remember, but does baseball and softball even have a color restriction? Meaning does the home team have to wear a certain type of jersey (like white) and the visiting team has to wear something else? I do not remember this being a debate, but it has been so long since I stopped working baseball, I just did not remember. You see all kinds of colors at other levels.

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I cannot remember, but does baseball and softball even have a color restriction? Meaning does the home team have to wear a certain type of jersey (like white) and the visiting team has to wear something else? I do not remember this being a debate, but it has been so long since I stopped working baseball, I just did not remember. You see all kinds of colors at other levels.

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NFHS in softball just says the team's uniforms must be the same color and style. No such rule regarding home visiting teams wearing dark or light colors. We generally arent having to make judgements where having opposing colored uniforms would help us.
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MLB *traditionally* had the home team wear white, because it was hard for the V team to get the laundry done and the darker uniforms would not show as much dirt. That tradition has largely gone away.

Nos specific rule exists in FED, NCAA or MLB baseball.

Or, any volleyball rule with which I am familiar.

Or, it would seem, tennis or track or golf....
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I cannot remember, but does baseball and softball even have a color restriction? Meaning does the home team have to wear a certain type of jersey (like white) and the visiting team has to wear something else? I do not remember this being a debate, but it has been so long since I stopped working baseball, I just did not remember. You see all kinds of colors at other levels.

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When I played baseball in high school 20 years ago, we got one jersey and one pair of pants. Would have loved to have home and away jerseys though
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Why the 180 degree turn here?

For the past forty-three-plus years (probably longer) the home team has worn white (light color previous to 2007-08).

If it ain't broke, why fix it?
They want to be like the NFL and NHL. Most of the time, the home team is wearing their colors. I like it. Show your school colors for home games
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MN and NJ have the home team wearing dark for basketball. I wonder if changing from home team wears white to home team wears dark would have an effect.
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Why the 180 degree turn here?

For the past forty-three-plus years (probably longer) the home team has worn white (light color previous to 2007-08).

If it ain't broke, why fix it?
Payoff to Fed by uniform suppliers.
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Payoff to Fed by uniform suppliers.
Whether a team wears white at home or on the road does not require them to buy new uniforms.
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Players using face paint and/or hair glitter.

Requiring the game clock to stop after a made basket in the last minute of the game and overtime.

Requiring the visiting team jersey to be white and the home team jersey to be a contrasting dark color.

Limiting the head coach to only request a time-out during a dead-ball situation.

Removing coaching box privileges from the head coach only when the head coach receives a direct technical foul and allowing the head coach the use of the coaching box after an indirect technical foul.

Establishing goaltending when the ball contacts the backboard and any part of the ball is above the rim during a field goal attempt when the ball is touched by a player as long as it has a possibility of entering the basket.

Establishing basket interference when a blocked shot attempt causes the ring to shake causing an unsuccessful try for goal.

Eliminating the penalty for dunking during pre-game and halftime warm-ups.

Using the 3-point line as the determining line for if the ball is inbounded in a team’s frontcourt from the end line or at the nearest 28-foot mark on the sideline instead of the imaginary line.

Allowing a team to advance the ball to the 28-foot mark in the team’s frontcourt upon a time-out after a made basket, securing a rebound or a change of possession with under one minute to play in the fourth quarter or overtime period.
Could be another "banner year" for rule changes coming up.
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Part I – Are These Changes Made Last Year

3. Eliminating the one-and-one for common fouls beginning with the seventh team foul in the half and establishing the bonus as two free throws awarded for a common foul beginning with the team’s fifth foul in each quarter and resetting the fouls at the end of each quarter.

4. Establishing four throw-in spots when a team is retaining or gaining team control in its frontcourt due to a violation, a common foul prior to the bonus, or other stoppages in play other than an out of bounds.

5. Allowing the official administering a throw-in to the wrong team to correct the mistake before the first dead ball after the ball becomes live unless there is a change of possession.

6. Allowing a player to step out of bounds without penalty unless they are the first player to touch the ball after returning to the court or if they left the court to avoid a violation.

These are all improvements and worked well. The other two are meaningless in my opinion.

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4. An increase in unsporting or confrontational behavior by fans toward officials.
Fan behavior has been increasingly worse since COVID. The coaches and players were fine in the games that I did this year.
I had three technical fouls all season—one was for hanging on the ring, another was for taunting (player to opposing player), and the last was for a player tossing the ball away after a traveling call.
The coaches around here were wonderful. The players were generally good. However, the fans are idiots.

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Part III – About Rules For 2024-25 – Would You Favor?

1. Requiring the game clock to stop after a made basket in the last minute of the game and overtime. No, our timers have enough difficulty already.

2. Requiring the visiting team jersey to be white and the home team jersey to be a contrasting dark color. Don’t care. Either way is fine with me. Just get rid of gray.

3. Limiting the head coach to only request a time-out during a dead-ball situation. ABSOLUTELY!!! Would be the best change that the NFHS could make.

4. Removing coaching box privileges from the head coach only when the head coach receives a direct technical foul and allowing the head coach the use of the coaching box after an indirect technical foul. Fine. I don’t care if the HC is sitting or standing.

5. Returning to a bonus free throw after the seventh team foul that allows a second free throw only when the first attempt is successful and two free throws after the tenth team foul each quarter. NO!

6. Allowing a bonus free throw after the fourth team foul that allows a second free throw only when the first attempt is successful and two free throws after the sixth team foul each quarter. No. It is clear and simple now. Always two shots. Don’t mess this up.

7. Awarding two free throws after the sixth team foul and resetting the team foul count at the end of each quarter. Five seemed to work well for 8-minute quarters. Would six be better for pace of play or just cause more aggressive play? Additionally, 5-5-5 is kind of nice. Five individual fouls for DQ, five team fouls per quarter for the bonus, and five time-outs for each team in a game.

8. Establishing goaltending when the ball contacts the backboard and any part of the ball is above the rim during a field goal attempt when the ball is touched by a player as long as it has a possibility of entering the basket. Might as well. That is what people see on TV and believe the rule to be anyway.

9. Establishing basket interference when a blocked shot attempt causes the ring to shake causing an unsuccessful try for goal. Same as #8.

10. Eliminating the penalty for dunking during pre-game and halftime warm-ups. Yes, less for us to have to deal with. If the baskets get broken, we get paid anyway. Shouldn’t be the problem of the officials.

11. Assessing a team technical foul for dunking during pre-game warm-ups instead of a player technical foul. I would rather that it gets eliminated entirely. However, this is better than the current rule.

12. Using the 3-point line as the determining line for if the ball is inbounded in a team’s frontcourt from the end line or at the nearest 28-foot mark on the sideline instead of the imaginary line. Fine, but I would rather see the FT lane and semi-circle used for end line throw-ins and have everything else go to the side.

13. Requiring all frontcourt throw-ins to take place at one of the four spots used for violations, fouls and other stoppages. Fine

14. Allowing a team to advance the ball to the 28-foot mark in the team’s frontcourt upon a time-out after a made basket, securing a rebound or a change of possession with under one minute to play in the fourth quarter or overtime period. No way! That just favors the team getting the ball. The NBA only allows advancing because it keeps the TV audience and allows for more commercials to be shown when fans would otherwise turn the game off.

15. Establishing a violation when a team is inbounding the ball in the frontcourt and throws the ball into the backcourt to avoid a five-second call. No. Let them throw the ball in and play. This isn’t the NBA.

16. Establishing a violation for faking being fouled (flopping). Unnecessary, just call a T, call a blocking foul, or ignore it. We don’t need another rule to deal with faking.

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Part III, Question 10: I was not surprised at this question, which would make the NFHS Rule the same as the NCAA Men's Rule (The AIAW and NCAA Women's has always allowed the Dunking of a Ball, Dead or Live) of also allowing a Dead Ball to be Dunked which the NCAA Men's adopted for the 2014-15 school year which was reverting back to the NBC Rule which was in effect up to and including the 1967-68 school year.

Part III, Question 11: This question did surprise me somewhat because it would be reverting back to the Penalty when the Dunking a Dead Ball TF was adopted for the 1971-72 school year by the NBC.

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