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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

... why can't the other officials come to the throw-in spot instead of having the administering official come to them?

Sets up a lopsided coverage of the court.

During a timeout we need at least one official at the division line ready to beckon in subs, prevent subs from entering after the warning horn, and ready to address any questions from the table, or from polite coaches.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Sets up a lopsided coverage of the court. During a timeout we need at least one official at the division line ready to beckon in subs, prevent subs for entering after the warning horn, and ready to address any questions from the table, or from polite coaches.

It's laziness. You can see subs from the throw-in spot. If you're having a meeting with your partners, coaches questions can wait. If the table needs information, then tend to that instead of having a referee gossip session.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

It's laziness.

Forty-two foot important conversations indicate laziness.

Tête-à-têtes at the endline, or at the division line, or halfway in between (as dictated by local custom), are not being lazy.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Forty-two foot important conversations indicate laziness.

Tête-à-têtes at the endline, or at the division line, or halfway in between (as dictated by local custom), are not being lazy.

Most officials' meetings during time-outs are unnecessary. Usually one official doesn't walk down to the other end of the court. If important enough, I'm going to the ball so I don't have to stop my conversation to tell the coach(es) where the throw-in will be-- they can know by where we are standing where the spot will be. You seem to have a lot of stuff you stress about during dead balls.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

You seem to have a lot of stuff you stress about during dead balls.

“When the ball is dead, we must be alive”. Of course, not my quote, probably stated by hundreds of interpreters, trainers, and clinicians.

https://forum.officiating.com/basket...ml#post1046692

Of course, local customs certainly "trump" NFHS, or IAABO, mechanics.

When in Rome ...

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Bottom line for me, I will do what my local interpreter, and assignment commissioner, want me to do.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Sets up a lopsided coverage of the court.

During a timeout we need at least one official at the division line ready to beckon in subs, prevent subs from entering after the warning horn, and ready to address any questions from the table, or from polite coaches.

I do not think I have ever had an official at the division line for subs. At least not mechanically. Officials talk to each other all the time in my parts and it is encouraged. We can observe the subs from our location no matter on the court. And you must be talking about only 2 person, that is the only mechanic set that has officials at the division line.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

... you must be talking about only 2 person, that is the only mechanic set that has officials at the division line.

Bingo.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I've had many occasions where the was in dispute among the crew.

I have not unless the throwin spot is politely questioned by a coach (who often wants a front court endline, instead of sideline, throwin) in which case the issue is briefly discussed with my partner (very rarely changed, most always discussed only for game management purposes to show the coach that we do listen to him).

Note: I myself had, or had partners who had, a brief memory lapse after a timeout regarding designated spot, or run the endline. To combat this, I will always, as the administering official, or as the nonadministering official, give the designated spot, or run the endline, signal to my partner during the timeout, and after the timeout.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I've had many occasions where the throw-in spot was in dispute among the crew.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I have not unless the throwin spot is ...

I've re-thought my answer. Dispute is a strong word, but ...

Working mostly middle school games, I often work with partners who are rookies, or who are veterans who, due to poor evaluations, are not eligible to work varsity games.

What I often see are partners who don't signal (visually or orally, preliminary or final) correctly such that I know "what happens next", possession (direction, team color, where), free throws (by whom, how many, did the ball go in the basket), switch, or not, etc. Because I'm paying attention to my primary coverage area, I'm often left guessing. In throwin spot situations this usually doesn't lead to a dispute or a debate because such partners often just don't care, except to get in, get out, and get paid.

Back pre-arthritis, when I was working all varsity games, I rarely had such problems.