NCAA Tournament video request thread
 

Let’s put all requests for video clips from the tournament in this thread to make it as simple as possible for our video guys.

I’ll start with the first one.
Duke v Oral Roberts 13:00 remaining in the first half. After the steal by Duke did a very unusual backcourt violation occur?

Boise State v Northwestern
27 seconds left in the game.
Is there a violation by the FT shooter?

Do you mean him throwing the ball of the back of a teammate? If that is what you are talking about, he did not throw the ball off the teammate that was in the FC.

Peace

Honestly, no. Now the broadcast did not help because they cut to a shot of the FT shooter (as they do) and he almost immediately threw the ball to the basket. You do not see the flight of the ball at all and see contact with the backboard at least and he is behind the line. Actually takes two steps from behind the line, then beats everyone to the ball.

I know the NW coach complained and suggested there was a violation, but it was not for coming across the line too early. If anything it might have been for not hitting the rim, but that is not something we can prove based on the broadcast view.

Peace

Roger Ayers clip (USC/MSU)
 

Can someone please post (or describe) the interaction on the CBS broadcast late in the MSU/USC game...there were several shots of Roger Ayers, and it looked like he was talking with the announcers. I was watching the game without any sound or captioning and was curious.

Yes, if the teammate had made it to the fc, then this was illegal. It happened too fast for me to tell on TV. Never saw a replay.

This play covers a few aspects that we have discussed. Intentional miss, line-drive try, crossing the line when the ball strikes the backboard, ball contacting the ring later. Thought that it would be good for an instructional clip.

Right after the final horn in Memphis v FAU, the head coach for Memphis, Anfernee Hardway throws a water bottle towards the end of the court. It sails over the head the of the nearest official and he seems to get hit with water in his face.
There should be some punishment (fine or suspension) coming for this behavior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMEAzZXOahQ

I see why this would raise an issue. He never got to the FC. Bad pass that hit the teammate in the back and came right back to him. It was rather obvious but unusual. I see why it was requested.


I might actually post this play. But I really had to slop this down and caught the cut of the video where he was behind the line. It was a topic for the NW coaching staff to the officials.

Peace

Very inappropriate when I saw this the first time. Did not know he hit the officials standing there with the fluid.

It will be overlooked as many things.

Peace

Duke v Tennessee: first half, about 14 minutes remaining (I apologize for not having the time as I was listening to the game instead of watching.)
Player control foul goes to a monitor review. The official tells the broadcast crew that it is not an F1 as the ball struck the opponent. My question is why is this a foul at all?

Duke v. Tennessee.

8:27 second half. Charge called on Duke player drive to basket. Discussion of the legality of this play.

Peace

Facing the player. Two feet down. Moved laterally. Defense DID NOT do anything wrong. Good Call.

I agree. Reminder to myself to show this.

Peace

You can't take away a common foul at the monitor.

That game reminded me of the Bill Laimbeer era in Detroit. :eek:

Princeton vs. Missouri game.

2nd Half - 3:03

BI that was close not called.

Peace

Didn’t say that they could, my question concerns calling that a PC in the first place. We seem to have several official who believe that this play was called correctly.

Yeah, I've never agreed with calling a player control foul when all the contact is from the ball.

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One In A Million Free Throw Shot ...
 

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Is this really a one in a million event? I've had a least two of these in forty-three years.

How long do we wait?

How long? You tell us because there's nothing in the rulebook or a manual that tells us.

An Act Of God Or Some Other Invisible Force ...
 

Hopefully we deem the ball dead before a player "helps us out" by getting the ball down.

Don't have the skills or software to clip, but from seeing the play he looks legal.

The pass from A1 hits A2 while he still has BC status.

Monitor review for OOB call.

Defender was moving laterally and giving ground, A1 initiates and goes through him.

Earlier in the possession there should have been a block/trip call on the Tennessee big man when he stepped out on the ballhandler.

Michigan St. vs Marquette. Approximately 8:25-8:20 remaining in 1st half. Marquette defender deflects ball and it passes through the ring from below, and passes through the ring again from above. Play was stopped and Marquette was given possession. Why?

It's a violation to cause the ball to go through the ring from below.

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Correct. Wondering why the ball was given to Marquette, unless it was simply that the official thought it was last touched by a Michigan State player…

I'll pull up the play later today and see what I can figure out from the broadcast.

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If I recall correctly, it was definitely deflected up by MSU's Sissoko

Just watched it. There were two opponents close together, but MSU-22 tips the ball up through the basket.

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The play happened at 14:09. The play appeared to be contact with the ball. I think the officials was looking behind the play and saw that the was hit in the face. But it appears the only contact with the offensive player would have been the ball. I think this was about an angle and the result. Which we have to be careful to guess. But totally understand why it was called.

Peace

Apparently, Rodgers' daughter was diagnosed with cancer. Not sure of the severity or the circumstances, but it appears this was talked about during the ACC Tournament where officials wore pink whistles and lanyards. I have never heard the full story or when this was known, but it appears that is the reason they are talking about them. There are some articles, some, unless you subscribe, cannot read them. So that is the best I can figure out at this time. I tend to hear part of never hear the entire story when I watch the games.

Peace

Sorry to be late getting back to this. The last few years, the NCAA lists as a "Major Officiating Concern" a desire to "reduce physicality to allow freedom of movement." The Tenn-Duke game didn't seem to follow that guidance.

There was a lot of attacking the basket. I saw nothing in that game of what I saw that was out of the ordinary. And the officiating directives have been basically the same for 5 or more years.

Peace

And yet, 2/3 officials from that game advanced. So clearly someone was happy with their work.

As someone who has had an inside look at tournament advancement at a lower level, that doesn't necessarily mean those officials had a great 1st weekend.

The politics of conference representation is a component of who advances. Take a look on how many primary BE & ACC along with "P12, MWC, WCC" (all same consortium) guys moved on. From what I heard, the ACC and B10 was going to have a low number of guys advance and some "behind the scene" influential people changed that.

The problem with even trying to parse this out, is that most of these officials work in multiple leagues and consortiums. Maybe who is their primary matter, but guys like Keith Kimble works in about 5 major conferences. I believe the Big 12 is his primary, but he was working B1G, SEC, ACC, and even Pac 12 games at some point just this season. Roger Ayers works in the ACC but saw him in B1G, Big 12, and Big East games (as well as others). Some of these guys are so spread out that all we know is that they are working in those conferences every night.

Peace

I sent you a private message.

Once in 15 years for me.

I feel like I’m due for another.


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Thanks! I had only had the one look and thought Marquette touched it last.

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Peace

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Peace

Not requested here, but an interesting play.
 

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Florida Atlantic vs. Tennessee, 4:34 left in 2nd half. Did they just stop the game for a Tennessee player to put his shoe back on? :eek:

Two plays I want to see for throw-in administration

Gonzaga - UCLA 10 second back court violation, I'll have to check the time in second half. I missed the play itself, but the broadcasters clarified later on that it was indeed a 10-second violation by UCLA. However Gonzaga made the ensuing throw-in from their own back court instead of UCLA's back court.

Gonzaga - UCLA 7:45 2nd half. Back court violation. Player caught the ball in the air jumping from the back court to the front court. Where should the throw in spot be? Should it be determined by the last spot he was in contact with the court or where he was in the air when he caught the ball?

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And I would like to see replays of Drew Timme's post spin moves before he dribbles. Just from the naked eye on TV with no replay, it looks like he is jumping before releasing the ball to dribble.

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Didn't see this (or any other) game, the throw in spot should be from where the player left the court.

Or after picking up his dribble. Specifically, the one at approx. 5:30 left in the first half. Gathers ball on one foot on the left low block. Takes seven steps after the gather, I believe.

When did this happen? Unfortunately, I did not see this entire game. So I do not remember the play.

Peace

Going through the play-by-play, I believe it was 2nd half/15:11 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6ym...seofHighlights

That play is in this series of highlights. At 1:20 specifically

I don't begrudge officials missing small shuffles when there is so much contact - but the one you are referencing is pretty egregious.

Trail needs to get this one.

This is such good officiating. Something I pregame every night - if you know what your partner has, but you also know that what you have preceeded/caused the second call, come in hard. A+

Raymond requested this play
 

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Raymond requested play - Part 2
 

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Peace

I think the one he was requesting happened much later. UCLA had the ball, crossed half court and the first whistle appears to be for a kicked ball in their front court.

10 Second Violation - Possible Kicked ball?
 

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Peace

Thank you JRut for doing "God's Work."

Basket Interference play.
 

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I remember the first play and thinking that's an obvious travel, I was right. Don't even need to discuss the one at 1:20 of the video. Also at the 2:25 and 2:45 marks of the video I think are obvious also.

I wasn't even paying attention to see if the call was correct. I don't think they got the throw-in spot correct either, which affects the shot clock.

I had asked for both, but more in regard to the throw-in spots.

A lot going on here:

• Shot clock starts while throw-in is still being executed (you can see shot clock next to Wendy's emblem at 29 during throw-in)
• Kicked ball occurs before shot clock hits 20
• Gonzaga was given a back court throw-in which is incorrect since UCLA was charged with not getting the ball into their front court

Basket Interference ...
 

"And that is a goaltend!

"And that's goaltending!"

No it's not!

UCLA / Gonzaga 10 sec / kick ???
 

Just sent a text to Jeff O'Malley with play. Will post answer when I hear back..

Was he the alternate?

Peace

Nope he happens to be a personal friend.

I was working a HS game late this season with a retired collegiate official (now a clinician) where I called a spin move travel on a move to the basket as T. He politely excoriated me at halftime. While not the same as this play, his point was that there’s a movement at higher levels these days not to call ANY travels on moves to the basket. But watching a play like this one, I think this philosophy might be causing outside officials to swallow some absurdly obvious travels.

Maybe it’s time to move the philosophical needle a bit back to the right.


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Apparently something was said because Mark Few was complaining about traveling being called on Timme vs. UConn.

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Women’s game, but I’d like to see the Tennessee/Virginia Tech sequence with about 30 seconds left in the game. Tennessee player punched a VT player in the stomach and there was no call on the floor nor monitor review.

I cannot embed from my phone. First one is definitely a swing and connection with more of the wrist and forearm, followed by a delayed reaction by the VT player, and then the Tennessee player looks like she jabs her in the chest or stomach area and the VT player throws her head back and goes to the ground. Definitely don't like that no official has their eyes on that nor hangs back.

https://youtu.be/UqBIS2dPLXM

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Classic Box out.
 

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Clean blocks or fouls?
 

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Peace

Here it is embedded.

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This is one of the plays that most peeves me about coaches. When a coach tells me this is boxing out I know I'm dealing with a low basketball IQ and someone who doesn't care about player safety.

My standard conversation enders are either:

• Would this be legal to do against your airborne jump shooter?
• Would it be legal for the player in front to push the jumping rebounder's legs using his arms and hands?

How they answer the question determines if I'm having any more conversations with that coach the rest of the game.