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Dead Ball Contact
A1 scores a layup in transition .. A1 lands takes a step and more and is hit pretty hard into the wall by B1
Dead Ball Intentional Technical? Dead Ball Flagrant Technical (this was not flagrant) 10-4-7 "Intentionally or flagrantly contacting an opponent when the ball is dead and such contact is not a personal foul." It's the and such contact is not a personal foul language that fouls everything up. Essentially, that means if it would be a personal foul but the ball is dead, ignore it, and that we should only penalize dead ball contact that rises to the level of an Intentional or Flagrant foul. In that case, the hard contact described originally has to be Flagrant (because the definition of Intentional foul states that excessive contact must be while the ball is live.) |
Technical foul is an option. We call dead ball contact as Technical Fouls all the time. No different because it follows a made basket.
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If the ball was live, this would be an intentional personal foul. Since the ball is dead, it's an intentional technical foul.
Use the "but not limited to" clause in the definition of intentional foul if the "while the ball is live" part bothers you. |
All fouls are put into two categories. They are either a personal foul or a technical foul. When the ball is dead and a foul is called, it can only be a technical foul. You can have intentional or flagrant fouls take place during a dead ball or a live ball.
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I've had this happen as we all have. Tend to call a shooting foul which is probably incorrect as the airborne shooter has returned to the floor. I guess the question is how long does the ball remain dead after the ball goes through the hoop and exactly when does the contact occur. Could you make the case that after the ball fully goes through it is now at the disposal of the opposing team and is now "live"? if so the contact would be a common foul similar to when a jump shooter shoots and misses but is fouled after he/she returns to the floor. All I know is the explanation to the offended coach will be interesting.
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But it's a valid question. When is the ball at the disposal? When we start our count. When do we start our count? When the ball is at the disposal. To quote United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart, "I know it when I see it". |
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I don't think so |
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Think about granting, or not granting, a request for a timeout to the team that just scored. If you're counting, don't grant. It you aren't counting, grant. |
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My way is for a player to jump and dunk the ball (this creates the dead ball, but the player is still an airborne shooter), then crash into a legal defender before returning to the floor. This is a player control foul, NOT a dead ball technical. I can't think of another way to have a personal foul during a dead ball. So I'm curious if Camron knows of one. |
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