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Old Sat Dec 03, 2022, 02:32pm
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You cannot use the mathematical definition of a word which is being used to describe human movement in a basketball game. You need to understand it in a basketball sense. If you go with the math definition, you end up with the absurd conclusion that a player should be penalized for having his arms at only 89 degrees instead of a perfect right angle.
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Agree. Tough to interpret on a written test with no images.
Also, how many degrees is "slightly"?

Is "slightly" a subjective term?

Is my "slightly" the same as Camron Rust's "slightly"?

Is my "slightly" the same as Nevadaref's "slightly"?

Is Camron Rust's "slightly" the same as Nevadaref's "slightly"?

What is one degree more than "slightly" called?

"Moderately"?

"Somewhat"?
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Old Sat Dec 03, 2022, 02:54pm
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... how many degrees is "slightly"?
In a real game I probably would not sound a whistle on "slightly".

I probably should have done the same on the written exam.
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I probably should have done the same on the written exam.
What makes this question even more complicated is that early versions of the written exam included the phrase "slightly forward", while later versions of the written exam included the phrase "slightly downward", and the answer sheet was for the "slightly downward" version.

I'm not even sure what "slightly downward" means and I can't even picture that.

I'm still waiting for an explanation of the change in wording.

#66 B-1 is directly behind A-1 who receives the ball in the low post. As A-1 turns to try for goal, B-1’s hands and arms extend vertically in a slightly downward position. A-1’s arm contacts B-1’s arm. The official rules a foul on B-1. Is the official correct?
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In a real game I probably would not sound a whistle on "slightly".

I probably should have done the same on the written exam.

Don’t feel bad, I got it wrong for the same reason you did. Rules exams are typically known for their lack of subjectivity. It’s just our dumb luck that in this case, “slightly forward” was indeed meant to be subjective by the writer.

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Old Sun Dec 04, 2022, 11:42am
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Don’t feel bad, I got it wrong for the same reason you did. Rules exams are typically known for their lack of subjectivity. It’s just our dumb luck that in this case, “slightly forward” was indeed meant to be subjective by the writer.
We even discussed this question in our Refresher Exam open book study group, with reference citations (but no answers), about a dozen and a half guys, many experienced great rules guys, and just a few who didn't know if the basketball was stuffed or inflated.

The consensus was that “slightly forward” made this contact illegal and a foul.
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