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Followup question. When do you shoot the technical foul free throws? As part of the previous period (before the intermission), or after the intermission as part of the new period? I say the former. While the technical foul was called during the intermission, it was for an infraction that occurred during the previous period.
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I had the same thought. Although you should probably shoot them before going to the locker room if you can since it happened to end the 2nd quarter, but if you don't get the chance then it would fall under the umbrella of a correctable error and you could shoot them when you come back out.
However, this begs another question - How do you start the 3rd quarter, stay with the possession arrow or award to the team that shot the free throws because of the tech?
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It's really the same question as already asked -- it depends on whether you shoot the FTs as part of the second quarter or third quarter.
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... It also could have happened before/during the intermission between the first and second periods, or the intermission between the third and fourth periods.
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Or, since the quarter expired before you recognized violation and enforced the penalty, do you consider this to be administered to start the next quarter and then go with the ball out at half court (possession arrow does not change)?
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I vote for this.
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"shooting as part of the second (o third) quarter" is not necessarily the same as "shoot before the teams go to the locker room or after" |
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Simply restating the same verbiage that did not clarify it enough to help me understand is not exactly answering my question. I still am wondering the correct way to administer this and start the 3rd quarter.
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If you shoot the FTs as part of third quarter, then the period starts with the FTs AND the associated throw-in, and the arrow remains the same. |
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What's It Gonna Be Boy ??? (Paradise by the Dashboard Light, Meat Loaf, 1977) ...
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Based on what I read in rule 5-6-4, since the tech was given after the buzzer the free throws become a part of the next quarter and we would start the new quarter with a throw-in for the team that shot the free throws with no change of the possession arrow (exceptions for 4th quarter & OT not applied in this example).
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Is It Too Late To Penalize ???
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While we can debate this (I don't think that my assigner would care a lot about this aspect), the real question is, "Is it too late to penalize?" (my assigner would definitely care a lot about this aspect).
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If you don't realize there were 6 players until after the ball becomes dead to end the 2nd quarter, it is too late to penalize. Your whistle doesn't have to beat the horn, but you have to have the aha moment before the horn (or before the try ends if there is a shot in flight). If you go to the locker room and decide that, yes, there were 6 players out there to end the half, it is too late. It wasn't discovered during the live ball...the discovery occurred during halftime. It doesn't matter when the whistle sounds. You either recognize it in time or not. If you do recognize it, the FTs are part of the 2nd quarter, even if you have the whistle after the ball becomes dead and time has run out.
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However the NCAA Bulletin appears to leave a little "wiggle room": The officials must see the violation occur or have personal knowledge that it did occur in order to penalize the infraction. I wish that the NFHS would define "participating".
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Participating
When they become a player and the ball becomes live they have participated.
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