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Old Sat Mar 26, 2022, 12:45pm
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Tough Call ...

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I’m pretty sure they called possession, TC ...
I believe that they did.

Like I said, tough call.

A little more control (cupping ball in hand and fingers), easy call, one hand holding, player control, and team control.

A little less control (just a few fingers tipping the ball, or flatter hand slapping the ball), easy call, no holding, no player control, and no team control.

Was he slapping, tipping, or tapping the ball back onto the court? One can slap, tip, or tap with intent and direction.

Was he ever holding the ball (player control is defined as holding or dribbling, nothing about controlling, one can control a tip, tap, or slap without holding the ball)?

As it is, no man's land, rock and a hard place, damned if you do, damned if you don't, six of one, half dozen of the other.

Judgment. It's why basketball officials get paid the big bucks.
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Old Sat Mar 26, 2022, 01:17pm
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Ancient Times ...

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Was he slapping, tipping, or tapping the ball back onto the court? One can slap, tip, or tap with intent and direction ...
Reminds me of ancient times, before a tip, or a tap, was considered to be a try for goal. Officials had to decide how much control (holding) was involved to decide between an in the act of shooting (try) foul, or a common foul.

Player could be fouled on a tip or tap that missed and get no free throws (before the bonus, his team gets the ball), or a one and one (no double bonus back then).

If I recall correctly, if a player was fouled before the ball was in flight after tipping or tapping, the ball became dead immediately and a basket could not be scored.

Maybe the best rule change ever.

Am I right Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.?
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Old Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:10pm
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Imagine (John Lennon, 1971) ...

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Player could be fouled on a tip or tap that missed and get no free throws (before the bonus, his team gets the ball), or a one and one (no double bonus back then). If I recall correctly, if a player was fouled before the ball was in flight after tipping or tapping, the ball became dead immediately and a basket could not be scored.
Imagine a player fouled before the ball was in flight after tipping or tapping, the ball then enters the basket, officials wipe away the basket, and because it's not the bonus, no free throws, simply the ball for inbounding to the offended team.

Try explaining that to an irate coach. We did it. We had to do it.

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Maybe the best rule change ever.
I got that right.
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Old Sat Mar 26, 2022, 01:25pm
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The Plot Thickens ...

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Was he slapping, tipping, or tapping the ball back onto the court? One can slap, tip, or tap with intent and direction ...
Devil's Advocate: "Was he starting a dribble by slapping, tipping, or tapping the ball to the floor? If so, he has player control during a dribble".

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Like I said, tough call. Judgment. It's why basketball officials get paid the big bucks.
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Old Sat Mar 26, 2022, 02:54pm
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Directing Ball Toward Basket ...

If this player had touched an inbounds pass in this manner before "directing" it toward the basket with 0.3 seconds on the clock, followed by the ball entering the basket, would one count the basket?

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