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AremRed Tue Mar 15, 2022 04:49pm

NCAA Men's Tournament Officials (2022)
 
Previous Assignments:

NCAA Men's Tournament Officials (2021)
NCAA Men's Tournament Officials (2019)
NCAA Men's Tournament Officials (2018)
NCAA Men’s Tournament Officials (2017)
NCAA Men’s Tournament Officials (2016)
NCAA Men’s Tournament Officials (2015)
NCAA Men’s Tournament Officials (2014)
NCAA Men’s Tournament Officials (2013)


FIRST FOUR -- DAYTON, OH

Tuesday, 3/15/2022
(16) Texas Southern vs. Texas A&M-Corpus Christi (16) -- Joe Lindsay, Michael Palou, Chad Barlow
(12) Wyoming vs. (12) Indiana -- Roger Ayers, Nate Harris, Vladimir Voyard-Tadal

Wednesday, 3/16/2022
(16) Wright State vs. (16) Bryant -- DJ Carstensen, Evan Burroughs, Jason Baker
(12) Rutgers vs. (12) Notre Dame -- Pat Driscoll, Courtney Green, Rob Rorke


ROUND OF 64

Thursday, 3/17/2022
INDIANAPOLIS
(11) Michigan vs. (6) Colorado State -- Larry Scirotto, Jeb Hartness, Justin Porterfield
(14) Longwood vs. (3) Tennessee -- Ray Natili, Bill Ek, Chuck Jones
(15) Saint Peters vs. (2) Kentucky -- Joe Lindsay, Larry Spaulding, Edwin Young
(10) San Francisco vs. (7) Murray State -- Roger Ayers, Earl Walton, Patrick Evans

BUFFALO
(13) South Dakota State vs. (4) Providence -- Terry Oglesby, Michael Greenstein, Anthony Jordan
(12) Richmond vs. (5) Iowa -- Pat Adams, Clarence Armstrong, David Hall
(12) New Mexico State vs. (5) UConn -- Jeff Clark, Tony Henderson, DG Nelson
(13) Vermont vs. (4) Arkansas -- Bert Smith, Greg Nixon, Steve McJunkins

PORTLAND
(9) Memphis vs. (8) Boise State -- Gerry Pollard, Bart Lenox, Sean Hull
(16) Georgia State vs. (1) Gonzaga -- Michael Irving, Rob Riley, Tommy Morrissey
(12) Indiana vs. (5) Saint Mary’s -- Verne Harris, Kelly Pfeifer, Rick Crawford
(13) Akron vs. (4) UCLA -- Terry Wymer, Matt Potter, Amy Bonner

FORT WORTH
(16) Norfolk State vs. (1) Baylor -- Jeff Anderson, Darron George, Rob Kueneman
(9) Marquette vs. (8) North Carolina -- Kipp Kissinger, Lamar Simpson, Nate Harris
(9) Creighton vs. (8) San Diego State -- Brian Dorsey, Brent Hampton, Vladimir Voyard-Tadal
(16) Texas Southern vs. (1) Kansas -- Tony Padilla, Donnie Eppley, Scott Brown

Friday, 3/18/2022
PITTSBURGH
(10) Loyola Chicago vs. (7) Ohio State -- Brian O’Connell, Antinio Petty, Courtney Green
(15) Delaware vs. (2) Villanova -- Mike Reed, Tony Greene, Todd Austin
(13) Chattanooga vs. (4) Illinois -- Don Daily, Tony Chiazza, Tommy Nunez Jr
(15) UAB vs. (2) Houston -- Doug Sirmons, Bret Smith, Olandis Poole

GREENVILLE
(15) Jacksonville State vs. (2) Auburn -- Lee Cassell, Deldre Carr, Brooks Wells
(10) Miami vs. (7) USC -- Bo Boroski, AJ Desai, Chance Moore
(15) Cal State Fullerton vs. (2) Duke -- John Gaffney, Randy Richardson, Greg Evans
(10) Davidson vs. (7) Michigan State -- Pat Driscoll, Byron Jarrett, Chris Beaver

SAN DIEGO
(14) Montana State vs. (3) Texas Tech -- Keith Kimble, Eric Curry, Jerry Heater
(11) Notre Dame vs. (6) Alabama -- Doug Shows, Tim Clougherty, Brandon Cruz
(16) Wright State vs. (1) Arizona -- Paul Szelc, Bill Covington, KB Burdett
(9) TCU vs. (8) Seton Hall -- John Higgins, Kevin Brill, Frank Harvey

MILWAUKEE
(14) Yale vs. (3) Purdue -- James Breeding, Evan Burroughs, Owen Shortt
(11) Virginia Tech vs. (6) Texas -- Chris Rastatter, Steve Anderson, John Floyd
(11) Iowa State vs. (6) LSU -- Ron Groover, Mark Schnur, Marques Pettigrew
(14) Colgate vs. (3) Wisconsin -- DJ Carstensen, Mike Nance, Nate Farrell


ROUND OF 32

Saturday, 3/19/2022
INDIANAPOLIS
(11) Michigan vs. (3) Tennessee -- Larry Scirotto, Joe Lindsay, Earl Walton
(15) Saint Peter's vs. (7) Murray State -- Roger Ayers, Ray Natili, Jeb Hartness

BUFFALO
(12) Richmond vs. (4) Providence -- Jeff Clark, Tony Henderson, Bert Smith
(12) New Mexico State vs. (4) Arkansas -- Terry Oglesby, Pat Adams, Michael Greenstein

PORTLAND
(5) Saint Mary's vs. (4) UCLA -- Gerry Pollard, Michael Irving, Rob Riley
(9) Memphis vs. (1) Gonzaga -- Terry Wymer, Verne Harris, Kelly Pfeifer

FORT WORTH
(8) North Carolina vs. (1) Baylor -- Kipp Kissinger, Brent Hampton, Donnie Eppley
(9) Creighton vs. (1) Kansas -- Jeff Anderson, Tony Padilla, Lamar Simpson

Sunday, 3/20/2022
PITTSBURGH
(5) Houston vs. (4) Illinois -- Brian O'Connell, Mike Reed, Courtney Green
(7) Ohio State vs. (2) Villanova -- Don Daily, Tony Chiazza, Doug Sirmons

GREENVILLE
(7) Michigan State vs. (2) Duke -- Bo Boroski, Lee Cassell, AJ Desai
(10) Miami vs. (2) Auburn -- John Gaffney, Pat Driscoll, Byron Jarrett

SAN DIEGO
(11) Notre Dame vs. (3) Texas Tech -- John Higgins, Bill Covington, Paul Szelc
(9) TCU vs. (1) Arizona -- Doug Shows, Keith Kimble, Eric Curry

MILWAUKEE
(11) Iowa State vs. (3) Wisconsin -- James Breeding, Chris Rastatter, Steve Anderson
(6) Texas vs. (3) Purdue -- Ron Groover, Marques Pettigrew, DJ Carstensen


SWEET SIXTEEN

Thursday, 3/24/2022
SAN FRANCISCO
(4) Arkansas vs. (1) Gonzaga -- James Breeding, Doug Shows, Michael Irving
(3) Texas Tech vs. (2) Duke -- Bert Smith, Lamar Simpson, Gerry Pollard

SAN ANTONIO
(11) Michigan vs. (2) Villanova -- Pat Adams, Don Daily, Tony Henderson
(5) Houston vs. (1) Arizona -- Terry Oglesby, Marques Pettigrew, Paul Szelc

Friday, 3/25/2022
PHILADELPHIA
(15) Saint Peter’s vs. (3) Purdue -- Chris Rastatter, Pat Driscoll, Brent Hampton
(8) North Carolina vs. (4) UCLA -- Tony Padilla, Lee Cassell, Courtney Green

CHICAGO
(4) Providence vs. (1) Kansas -- Keith Kimble, John Gaffney, Ray Natili
(11) Iowa State vs. (10) Miami -- Doug Sirmons, Jeff Clark, DJ Carstensen


ELITE EIGHT

Saturday, 3/26/2022
SAN ANTONIO
(5) Houston vs. (2) Villanova -- Jeff Anderson, Kipp Kissinger, Mike Reed

SAN FRANCISCO
(4) Arkansas vs. (2) Duke -- Ron Groover, Larry Scirotto, Joe Lindsay

Sunday, 3/27/2022
CHICAGO
(10) Miami vs. (1) Kansas -- Roger Ayers, Terry Wymer, Earl Walton

PHILADELPHIA
(15) Saint Peters vs. (8) North Carolina -- John Higgins, Verne Harris, Bo Boroski


FINAL FOUR -- NEW ORLEANS, LA

Saturday, 4/2/2022
(2) Villanova vs. (1) Kansas -- Keith Kimble, Doug Sirmons, James Breeding
(8) North Carolina vs. (2) Duke -- Roger Ayers, Bo Boroski, Tony Padilla

Monday, 4/4/2022
(8) North Carolina vs. (1) Kansas -- Ron Groover, Jeff Anderson, Terry Oglesby

Final Four Alternates: Bert Smith and Joe Lindsay

dahoopref Sat Mar 19, 2022 09:40am

Notable Missing
 
It was interesting that Teddy Valentine did not work the tournament. Also, last year's Championship "R", Randy McCall decided not to work as well due to "personal" reasons from what I've been told.

crosscountry55 Sun Mar 20, 2022 02:52pm

From an article on The Spun:

“During Baylor’s comeback, the refs called 13 of 14 fouls against Carolina. If these refs get another assignment in this tournament it’s an absolute travesty,” a UNC fan tweeted.”

How convenient of this fan to forget that prior to the colossally careless, seismically lineup shifting and momentum changing F2 on one of his players, those same refs called 8 of 9 fouls against Baylor. The absurdity of this quote….

As for the future assignability of the crew:

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 1047509)
(8) North Carolina vs. (1) Baylor -- Kipp Kissinger, Brent Hampton, Donnie Eppley

…yeah, I’m kinda thinking guys with names like that are gonna get a few more assignments. Maybe it’s just me, but….


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BillyMac Sun Mar 20, 2022 03:32pm

Randomness ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crosscountry55 (Post 1047616)
... 13 of 14 fouls ... 8 of 9 fouls against Baylor.

I hate these number "games". Teams have different styles of offense and defense. Zone defense. Man to man defense. Pressing defense. Half court defense. Slow down offense. Fast break offense. Good defenders. Bad defenders. Ball handlers that are aggressive, some out of control. Ball handlers that are patient. Within the actual game there are ebbs and flows. Teams behind often play differently that teams ahead. Then factor in randomness and luck, good luck, and bad luck; good calls, and bad calls; good no-calls, and bad no-calls.

bwburke94 Sun Mar 20, 2022 03:42pm

You're right there; the expected ratio of fouls by each team isn't necessarily 50:50. It relies on the game situation and the teams themselves.

BillyMac Sun Mar 20, 2022 04:01pm

Even Steven ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bwburke94 (Post 1047624)
... the expected ratio of fouls by each team isn't necessarily 50:50.

"Your right coach, I am calling more fouls against your team and fewer fouls against his team because the score is lopsided, you're up 43 to 28, and I have to "even up" the score".

"What do you mean that I don't have to "even up" THOSE numbers?"

"And, by the way, the other team has used more timeouts than you, four to one, so you better call some more timeouts to "even up" the timeouts."

"Count your blessings, you do get two of the next three alternating possession arrows."

Multiple Sports Wed Mar 23, 2022 04:22am

Sweet 16 Officials
 
If you go to Jeff Goodman's twitter account, you will see the 36 officials working this weekend.

crosscountry55 Fri Mar 25, 2022 09:32pm

I am not the best jump ball tosser. Watching Tony Padilla’s toss tonight in UCLA-NC made me feel a little better about myself.


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ilyazhito Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 1047748)
Sadly it’s not really a thing to blow back tosses on TV games.

Why not? A bad toss is a bad way to start the game.

If the referee is not confident in his toss, he can let either umpire handle it. That might avoid the need to call back tosses in the first place.

Raymond Tue Mar 29, 2022 08:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1047825)
Why not? A bad toss is a bad way to start the game.

If the referee is not confident in his toss, he can let either umpire handle it. That might avoid the need to call back tosses in the first place.

You should not jump to these conclusions. No one is saying veteran referees are not confident in tossing jump balls. The comment is about calling back the occasional bad toss.

ilyazhito Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:02am

I was curious why people don't call back bad tosses on TV games. A bad toss is embarrassing by itself, so I don't see how calling it back makes things worse.

BillyMac Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:18am

No More Jump Balls ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1047829)
I was curious why people don't call back bad tosses on TV games. A bad toss is embarrassing by itself, so I don't see how calling it back makes things worse.

Almost all non-officials don't know what a bad toss is, they wouldn't know it if it smacked them in the face (apologies to Chris Rock).

A small number of officials don't know what a bad toss is, in fact, a small number of officials don't know all the jump ball rules.

Preemptive note to Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: Shut up.

ilyazhito Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:46am

You're saying that officials don't call back a bad toss because they wouldn't know how to recognize it?

BillyMac Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:49am

Small Number ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1047832)
You're saying that officials don't call back a bad toss because they wouldn't know how to recognize it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1047830)
A small number of officials don't know what a bad toss is ...

... especially in a two person game where the non-tosser has so many things to look for, possibly all ten players, and the ball.

Of course, not knowing, and not seeing, may be different things, but I'm pretty sure that there can be some overlap.

bob jenkins Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1047832)
You're saying that officials don't call back a bad toss because they wouldn't know how to recognize it?

That the benefit of calling it back is outweighed by the cost of calling it back, unless it's egregious. I didn't see the play in question so I won't comment specifically.

ilyazhito Tue Mar 29, 2022 01:05pm

Interesting. Yes, the timers will have to be reset and everyone will have to be brought back to the circle. However, it happens anyway when the tossed ball is not touched. I've never been on TV, so I don't know if TV officials think it's not worth the time taken.

Back to the OP, congratulations and good luck to the Final Four officials.

bob jenkins Tue Mar 29, 2022 01:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1047835)
Interesting. Yes, the timers will have to be reset and everyone will have to be brought back to the circle.


More costs than that -- and it has almost nothing to do with "being on TV" specifically

BillyMac Tue Mar 29, 2022 01:21pm

Embarrass The Tosser ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1047834)
That the benefit of calling it back is outweighed by the cost of calling it back, unless it's egregious.

Agree. Calling a toss back will only draw added attention to a less than perfect toss and might embarrass the tosser. Been in this situation several times as the non-tosser. Usually seems best to just play on, seldom getting complaints from players, coaches, or fans.

If I'm good friends with my partner, at halftime, I might say, "That wasn't the best toss". Seldom get partners asking why I didn't call the toss back, usually just get, "Yes, it wasn't my best toss". Really good friends might reply sarcastically, "Well then, why didn't you call it back?", which starts the ball busting and chain yanking, and after a few laughs, we get on to more serious issues to work on in the second half.

The rare times that I do call it (egregious) back, I will often apologize to my partner, "Sorry I had to call your toss back, it was real bad", to which I will often get a reply, "Yeah, it was pretty pathetic. Thanks".

It's a fine line ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1041434)
...some have described jump balls as microbursts of mayhem.


Multiple Sports Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:37am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1047825)
Why not? A bad toss is a bad way to start the game.

If the referee is not confident in his toss, he can let either umpire handle it. That might avoid the need to call back tosses in the first place.

Actually the D3 National Coordinator insisted that the everyone adhere to their positions as there were many people whom he didn't know when he watched them in person or on film. This way he could tell who was whom based on the information he received from that coordinator.

ilyazhito Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:18am

Interesting. This means that the Referee assigned in Arbiter always tossed the ball during the D3 National Tournament. Hopefully all the tosses went off without any hitches.

JRutledge Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:43am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1047855)
Interesting. This means that the Referee assigned in Arbiter always tossed the ball during the D3 National Tournament. Hopefully all the tosses went off without any hitches.

Not necessarily. Jim Haney's comments were mostly about who is assigned the games during the season and he does not know everyone. I am sure if he assigned a game in the D3 tournament, he is likely aware of who he assigned on some level. And this was said a few years ago. I believe he has access to more information, But if you are U2 and you toss the ball, then he might think the R is the person that tossed the ball.

Peace

ilyazhito Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:51am

I don't know why MultipleSports brought this up, then. Another digression within a digression.

BillyMac Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:55am

Starting Periods ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1047856)
... if you are U2 and you toss the ball, then he might think the R is the person that tossed the ball.

Is college like high school, where the referee, and only the referee, puts the ball at the disposal of the inbounder to start the second, third, and fourth periods (or the second half for college men)?

Also, based on the context in the above posts, I'm assuming that in college, like in high school, the referee has the option of assigning the jump ball toss to one of the umpire(s).

Raymond Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1047858)
Is college like high school, where the referee, and only the referee, puts the ball at the disposal of the inbounder to start the second, third, and fourth periods (or the second half for college men)?

Also, based on the context in the above posts, I'm assuming that in college, like in high school, the referee has the option of assigning the jump ball toss to one of the umpire(s).

That's not an absolute in college or HS.

BillyMac Wed Mar 30, 2022 01:03pm

High School ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1047860)
That's not an absolute in ... HS.

NFHS 2-5-2: The referee must: Administer the alternating-possession throw-in to start the second, third and fourth quarters.

Raymond may be referring to something less than usual, like technical foul free throws, and the ball at the division line, to start a period (which would not be an alternating possession throwin), thus not an absolute?

Raymond Wed Mar 30, 2022 01:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1047861)
NFHS 2-5-2: The referee must: Administer the alternating-possession throw-in to start the second, third and fourth quarters.

Raymond may be referring to something less than usual, like technical foul free throws, and the ball at the division line, to start a period (which would not be an alternating possession throwin), thus not an absolute?

I thought we broke you of the habit of speaking for others.

I've done plenty of games in college and HS where the referee did not administer throw-ins at the beginning of periods.

BillyMac Wed Mar 30, 2022 01:34pm

Contrarian ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1047862)
I thought we broke you of the habit of speaking for others.

Sometimes I'm forced to do that (assume) when confronted with a cryptic, or incomplete post, leaving questions unanswered.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1047862)
I've done plenty of games in ... HS where the referee did not administer throw-ins at the beginning of periods.

Why not? Any other usually referee duties they did not do?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1047862)
I've done plenty of games in ... HS where the referee did not administer throw-ins at the beginning of periods.

I have too, contrary to the rule.

In almost all cases they were AAU, recreation, travel, middle school games, etc., not assigned by my high school commissioner, with very "relaxed" formalities. No pregame conference. No scorebook checking. No pregame coaches meeting.

In other cases (assigned by my high school commissioner), though I was assigned as the referee, I decided unilaterally (allowed by local custom and tradition) to allow inexperienced young officials (often rookies) to get some experience as a referee (lead a pregame conference, check scorebook, running pregame coaches/captains meeting, toss, and/or alternating possession starting period throwin administration.

Doing any of these tasks could possibly identify the referee, even if not assigned as such. Doing all of these pretty much identifies a referee, even if not assigned as such. "You be the referee tonight", not sure how official that is, may vary locally?

Also, until we (locally) started using Arbiter, and were assigned with paper and pencil through snail mail, umpires and referees were not assigned for any subvarsity games, it was decided when meeting at the site, usually based by seniority, or by who did what when partners last worked together, a somewhat fluid procedure.

But by rule, it's the referee who administers alternating possession throwins to "normally" begin periods, as well as initiate a pregame conference (by mechanics manual), check scorebook (implied by rule, also by mechanics manual), choosing tosser (rule), running pregame coaches meeting (rule), and a few other things (rules).

Don't follow all such rules and mechanics? No problem. When in Rome ...

Also, one probably needs to define referee on a local level. Is it one who is assigned to be the referee, or is it one who performs some, many, or all, the game duties usually associated with a referee? Some Forum members may have different definitions.

JRutledge Sat Apr 02, 2022 05:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 1047509)
FINAL FOUR -- NEW ORLEANS, LA

Saturday, 4/2/2022
(2) Villanova vs. (1) Kansas -- Keith Kimble, Doug Sirmons, James Breeding
(8) North Carolina vs. (2) Duke -- Roger Ayers, Bo Boroski, Tony Padilla

Monday, 4/4/2022
() vs. () -- Jeff Anderson, Ron Groover, Terry Oglesby

Final Four Alternates: Bert Smith and Joe Lindsay

I believe in the first Semifinal, Keith Kimble, Doug Sirmons, James Breeding worked the last Final Four with regular fans in 2019 with the Virginia-Auburn game.

Ironic and glad for those guys. And I have heard Keith reference that game as a clinician. Talked about many times how he he cannot talk about anyone's judgment after that particular game. Keith is a great dude and a person I learned a lot from.

Peace


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