Apparel 3-5
 

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/high...539dcb.html#17
See 18th picture. Is anything illegal with #11's tights?

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/high...33130c7ac.html
See 1st picture. Is anything illegal with #1's tights? Do they need to be the same visual length?

I believe as long as they don't normally show (like when a player just stands straight) then any color is fine. Otherwise, if they normally extend below the bottom of the shorts, they need to be the same basic color of the shorts.

At least I remember something like that.

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Colour My World (Chicago, 1970) ...
 

BryanV21: 2017 called and wants their compression shorts back.

Headbands, wristbands, arm sleeves, knee sleeves, lower leg sleeves, compression shorts, and tights, shall be the solid color black, white, beige, or the predominant color of the jersey. All of these items shall be the same color as worn by each player. Additionally, all of these items shall be the same color for all members of a team who choose to wear them. Anything worn on the arm, and/or the leg (except a knee brace), is defined as a sleeve, including knee pads, and elbow pads, and must be the solid color black, white, beige, or the predominant color of the uniform jersey.

Previous to a rule change in 2016-17, compression shorts (tights) had to be the same color as the uniform shorts. Since then, tights (compression shorts) must be black, white, beige, or the predominant color of the jersey, depending on the color of all equipment (not knee braces, not hair control devices) worn by all members of the team.

There are no color restrictions on uniform shorts, they can be all the colors of the rainbow, and can be different colors for different team members, something we often see here in my little corner of Connecticut when junior varsity players play in the subsequent varsity game.

Also, as of 2014-15, there are no longer any rule references to "school colors", but we still have some players, coaches, and, unfortunately, officials that believe that "school color" rules still exist.

https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.j...=0&w=300&h=300

Length Restrictions ...
 

There are no "length restrictions" on any equipment (sans headbands and wristbands) except for undershirt sleeves.

Undershirts must be similar in color to the uniform jersey, and shall not have frayed edges. Undershirt sleeves shall be the same length. Note that this rule does not require all players to wear the same length sleeves on their undershirts, but each individual player must have sleeves the same length on the undershirt when worn.

Below: NFHS: Legal tights (assuming all teammates are wearing black color restricted equipment).

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.town...size=990%2C808

That must be the oversized logo which shall be limited to 2¼ square inches and shall not exceed 2¼ inches in any dimension on any item. (3-6).

Edit: it's #10 Webster Groves' CJ Lang [<- search term] who has the tights with the illegal logo.

Hawk Eye Mike Goodwin ...
 

Nice catch Mike Goodwin.

2¼ square inches? That's why I carry a tape measure along with a protractor, a slide rule, and an extra whistle in my pocket.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.town...size=990%2C926

I'm getting old and losing my mind. [emoji17]

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Old And Losing My Mind ...
 

Hey, that's my line.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/4oAAA...D72/s-l300.jpg

He's been wearing those tights all year. :D

Kudos ...
 

I'm one of the toughest "Fashion Police" officials that I know, yet I completely missed that violation as I was scrolling through the photos and looking for "fashion" issues.

Kudos to Mike Goodwin.

School Color ...
 

Have there ever been "school color" rules in the rulebook, or is this just another myth passed down from generation to generation by players and coaches as they sit around campfires eating s'mores?

2013-14 interps

SITUATION 2: Prior to the start of the game, an official notices that several Team A members are wearing: (a) white wristbands and white headbands; or (b) black arm sleeves and white leg sleeves; or (c) black leg sleeves and white headbands.
RULING: Legal in (a) and (c); illegal in (b). In (a), wristbands and headbands shall be white, black, beige or a single solid school color and shall be the same for each item for all participants. In (b) illegal, the arm and leg sleeves shall be white, black, beige or a single solid school color and the same color for each team member. In (c), the rules do not require wristbands, headbands, arm and leg sleeves to all be the same color. (3-5-3, 3-5-4a)

SITUATION 3: The announcer announces (a) who scores (b) who fouls, (c) time left in the quarter.
RULING: Legal in (a) and (b); illegal in (c). In (a) and (b), the announcer is allowed to give basic information during the course of the game, such as who the foul is on, who is shooting free throws, which team is taking a time-out and the length of the time-out. In (c), announcing the amount of time left in the quarter is not information that should be given since there is a visible clock for all to see. There is no penalty. The announcer should be handled in the same manner as a scorekeeper or timer who are not in compliance with the spirit of the game. Appropriate training by school personnel and proper pregame instructions by the referee are necessary. (1-18)

SITUATION 4: Player A1 wears a red arm sleeve and his/her teammate, Player A2, wears a black leg sleeve.
RULING: Illegal. If worn, the leg and arm sleeves shall be white, black, beige or a single solid school color and the same for each team member. (3-5-3)

I might have overlooked if I hadn't had to count photos while scrolling through. That's nearly a practical joke, Zooch!

Always Listen To bob ...
 

Thanks bob jenkins. 2013-14 was the last we heard about "school colors".

2013-14: 3-5-4-A: Wristbands and headwear must meet the following guidelines: Headbands and wristbands must be white, black, beige or a single solid school color and must be the same color for each item and all participants.

2014-15: 3-5-4-A: Wristbands and headwear must meet the following guidelines: Headbands and wristbands must be white, black, beige or the predominant color of the jersey and must be the same color for each item and all participants.

Same Color ...
 

I had forgotten that this (above) was legal only eight years ago.

Nice of the NFHS to simply the color restrictions. I wish that they would simply them a little bit more. I would not be adverse to ignoring all colors from the waist down.

Color restrictions above the waist? I can take them, or leave them, as long as the NFHS keeps the color restrictions for undershirts.

Undershirt Colors ...
 

This is my story and I'm sticking to it.

Hard Work Or Hardly Working ...
 

Yeah. Why did Zoochy make us work so hard?

Not funny Zoochy!

This post went out of control fast.
I still don't have a consensus on the ruling if a player is wearing different length leg tights.
Legal? or Illegal?

NCAAW:
A.R. 14. A1 is wearing tights that extend below the game shorts. The left leg is
longer than the right leg.
RULING: Illegal. Similar to an undershirt, both legs must be the
same length. A1 may not participate until they are properly attired.
(Rule 1-23.2)

Tights ...
 

Asked and answered.

As far as I know, the NFHS does not have the same length restrictions and limitations on tights as NCAA-W.

NFHS: 3-5-3: Arm sleeves, knee sleeves, lower leg sleeves, compression shorts and tights are permissible:
a. Anything worn on the arm and/or leg is a sleeve, except a knee brace, and must meet the color restrictions.
b. The sleeves/tights, compression shorts must be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the jersey and the same color sleeves/tights must be worn by teammates.
c. All sleeves/tights, compression shorts must be the same solid color and must be the same color as any headband or wristband worn.
d. Meet the logo requirements in 3-6.

Same for Men.

Rule Language
 

Makes we wonder if the NFHS has a similar purpose and intent, but has not published any corresponding rule language?

Sign of things to come?

Thigh Sleeve ...
 

Makes me wonder.

How does a college official determine the difference between tights (with their specific restrictions) and thigh sleeves, as worn for hamstring injuries (with their specific restrictions)?

No way am I asking a young woman if "those" are tights or sleeves.

https://www.thatawesomeshirt.com/ima...t/223/430x550/

If I see a garment well below the shorts on one leg and something barely peeking out the on the other leg, I don't ask. I go to the player and tell them "Your tights have to be worn the same length on each leg." If they have only a single sleeve, they will tell us such. If the have a tight pulled up on one leg, they fix it. Don't think I've yet met a player clever enough to say one leg is a sleeve and the other is just showing the bottom of their compression shorts.

I ask, "Do those tights have a waistband?" That usually starts the conversation and we get to the bottom of the situation. If they show me it is a tight, then they are allowed to wear them. If they show me it is an undergarment, then I tell them they cannot play with them. Then usually address it with the coach and let them deal with it.

Peace

Thinking Facetiously Out Loud ...
 

Thanks Raymond. As someone will never officiate a college basketball game, I was actually thinking facetiously out loud. But I guess that it really does require some thought. I do appreciate your sincere reply. Maybe someday it will be a NFHS rule, and I'll be ready for such situations.

A Real Thing ...
 

Thanks JRutledge. Wow! Another college conversation I don't have to have in my high school game. I was only joking and it turned out to be a real "thing".

No Pun Intended, Or Pun Intended ..
 

I'm not sure. Is this a pun?

JRutledge is usually so serious on the Forum. A pun like this would be so unlike his usual presence on the Forum.

Pun, or not, this is one of his funniest posts ever.

Me Too ...
 

Sixteen will get you twenty.

I am actually rather sarcastic a lot. Most of the time because that is what I do.

Peace

There is also a photo of De Smet #1 (white uniform) in which he has his waistband rolled revealing multiple manufacturer’s logos (the Under Armour logo). The rolling of the waistband is permitted, but not the showing of multiple logos.

Multiple Logos ...
 

3-4-5: Uniform pants/skirts must have only one visible manufacturer’s logo/trademark/reference. See 3-6-2 for size requirements. Showing multiple manufacturer’s logos on the waist band of the pants/skirts makes the item illegal.

3-5-5-Note: Equipment and apparel must not be modified from the original manufactured state and must be worn in the manner the manufacturer intended it to be worn. Provided the shorts are not in conflict with Rule 3-4-5, no drawstring or other part of the shorts intended to maintain them in a normal position causes potential harm to the player or others and wearing of the shorts is not objectionable in exposing the anatomy, there is not restriction on folding or rolling the shorts at the natural waistband seam.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.town...size=990%2C845

BillyMac, you missed a second uniform violation. Not only are there multiple manufacture logo's on the waistband, there is also a manufacture logo on the shorts.

The waistband is part of the shorts, so that's still one uniform violation--multiple manufacturer's logos on the shorts. If he rolled the waistband one more time, then there would be one visible and he would be legal.

Show Me Zoochy ...
 

Is Zoochy saying that there are three logos visible on the "pants" in this photo?

And that a single visible logo on the waistband of the pants and single visible logo on the leg of the pants would also be illegal?

3-4-5: Uniform pants/skirts must have only one visible manufacturer’s logo/trademark/reference. See 3-6-2 for size requirements. Showing multiple manufacturer’s logos on the waist band of the pants/skirts makes the item illegal.

https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.m...=0&w=172&h=162