Minnesota approves HS shot clock for 2023

[BillyMac]

Quote from PIAA (Pennsylvania) executive director Bob Lombardi. “Some school administrators already consider the shot clock an "unfunded mandate" for schools, since they'd need to buy equipment and pay someone to operate it”.

[BillyMac]

Add Utah to the shot clock list.

https://news.yahoo.com/utah-high-sch...hssrp_catchall

California, Georgia, Iowa, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Washington, Montana, and Utah.

Not sure about Pennsylvania.

The dominoes are falling.

[Raymond]

https://www.athleticbusiness.com/ope...799D8323467F5A

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond;1046729[url

https://www.athleticbusiness.com/operations/budgeting/article/15287763/small-high-school-concern-over-shot-clock-cost-staffing?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_email=email&utm_term=&utm_medium=6799D8323467F5A&oly_enc_id=6799D8323467F5A[/url]

Nice article. While these concerns were provably not unanticipated, they are nevertheless still real.

[tnolan]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Nice article. While these concerns were provably not unanticipated, they are nevertheless still real.

Ditto.

When speaking with NY officials about when they implemented theirs, they didn't seem to think the transition was all that bad.
I see both positives and negatives to the addition of a shot clock in HS. It could potentially lead to some nice additional rules as well, that I'd be in favor of.
Then again, I have experience with shot clocks and I also know that no matter a good or bad operator, as an official, you still need to be on top of your clock management at every second...At worst though, you need 1 great clock aware official on a crew to fully manage a bad shot clock.

The article brings up an interesting point about the reasoning behind it and if there are better ways to better the game....

[paulsonj72]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Minnesota is a real maverick.

Besides a shot clock, I also believe that they use a restricted area, play in halves, the home team wears dark jerseys, and they're sticking to the "punch" signal.

Nevadaref's post also confirms that all three states that border Connecticut use shot clocks.

Connecticut is completely surrounded.

We can't hold out much longer.

It's only a matter of time for us.

Please send help.

Right on the halves, restricted area, and home team wears dark. Not sure about the punch signal as I haven’t been to a game this year.(I had triple bypass surgery right before Christmas and then got Covid three weeks later.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by paulsonj72

I had triple bypass surgery right before Christmas and then got Covid three weeks later.

Ouch. My stents are keeping me on the court, and alive.

[paulsonj72]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Ouch. My stents are keeping me on the court, and alive.

I had stents but they became blocked again so I underwent the surgery. Heart disease runs in the male side of my family. Getting Covid on top of it was an unwanted surprise. I have the side effect of still coughing. It was a mild case though as I was vaccinated

[tnolan]

Please bring the shot clock to PA. I'm ready. Let's do it.
I've always been pro-shot clock, but I think it's time.

We tend to always discuss "stalling" as the reason to implement the shot clock into HS bball, and I agree that it is a good reason. But looking at it from the other side, I also think that it would benefit teams who are trailing late in games. The potential opportunity for comebacks would increase when offensive possession time is limited.

Either way, any justification, pros/cons, whatever. I don't care how many issues or growing pains we have. I think the game needs it and could bring another level of excitement to HS bball.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by tnolan

I think the game needs it and could bring another level of excitement to HS bball.

What? The alternating possession arrow wasn't exciting enough for you?

[ilyazhito]

I would not call the AP arrow exciting. It reduces contested possessions to a coin flip.

I agree with tnolan on the shot clock, and would add that it restores the balance between offense and defense. If the offense has a limited time to shoot, they are forced to be more efficient with the time they do have. The defense can work in bursts to pressure the offense and prevent good shots.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by tnolan

... bring another level of excitement to HS bball.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

What? The alternating possession arrow wasn't exciting enough for you?

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

I would not call the AP arrow exciting.

My undergraduate teacher training taught me to never be sarcastic with my students. Based on my post-graduate teacher training training, I used the same policy with teachers I trained, and with teachers I evaluated.

I should know better.

[ilyazhito]

On the Internet, you can't hear intonation, or always tell that someone is being sarcastic, unless you see blue text or the /s tag.

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

I would not call the AP arrow exciting. It reduces contested possessions to a coin flip.

I agree with tnolan on the shot clock, and would add that it restores the balance between offense and defense. If the offense has a limited time to shoot, they are forced to be more efficient with the time they do have. The defense can work in bursts to pressure the offense and prevent good shots.

Enough of the off-topic digressions. I say good on MN for adopting the shot clock, and hopefully it helps basketball in their state.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

On the Internet, you can't hear intonation ...

Agree. But that probably won't stop me from trying.

And I'm not a big fan of the blue text.

It's like having to explain to someone why a joke is funny, it often ruins the joke.



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