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JRutledge Mon Apr 19, 2021 03:30pm

Men's NCAA National Championship Videos
 
Play #1:

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Play #2:

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It appears that the NCAA is not flagging videos like they had in the past. So as a result I will post more videos over the tournament for discussion. I just was not comfortable during tournament time to post many videos and get constant flags for copywriting. I think either they backed off or realize it is not undermining their exposure.

Peace

JRutledge Mon Apr 19, 2021 03:32pm

Play #3

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Peace

Raymond Mon Apr 19, 2021 03:47pm

Play 1: I see the defender holding first prior to any ward-off; I think that's what the Center sees also.

Play 2: You watch the defender's right foot and you can see him stepping into the ball handler (he actually kicks A1's left foot).

Play 3: Illegal screen prior to the defender grabbing screener's shoulder.

Camron Rust Mon Apr 19, 2021 05:23pm

1. First action was a swim move by the offense to put the defender behind him where he backed into the defender, after which the defender pulled him down....correct as called based on the first contact.

2. Defender had LGP and was maintaining it by moving toward the endline and toward the center of the court while the opponent was towards the division line. The offense never got head and shoulders past the front of the opponent's torso but contacted the front of the opponent's torso...LGP maintained, correct as called.

3. Screener moved into the path of the opponent too late...correct as called.

JRutledge Tue Apr 20, 2021 01:36pm

Play #4:
 
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Peace

Raymond Tue Apr 20, 2021 06:00pm

Play 4: good call. I'm glad the announcers didn't try to say it was the wrong call.

dahoopref Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:06pm

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1042967)
Play 4: good call. I'm glad the announcers didn't try to say it was the wrong call.

F1 occurred in the BC. The ball should have been inbounded in the BC resumed at the sideline nearest the point of interruption or the designated spot nearest to where the violation or foul occurred.

To compound the error, the crew also inbounded the ball in the FC with only 20 seconds on the shotclock. Even if they believed the F1 occurred in the FC, there should be at least 28 seconds on the shotclock.

That is why most good crews will go to the monitor when any type of flagrant foul is called; they can review spot of foul and any type of clock adjustments that need to be made.

Raymond Wed Apr 21, 2021 08:03am

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahoopref (Post 1042969)
F1 occurred in the BC. The ball should have been inbounded in the BC resumed at the sideline nearest the point of interruption or the designated spot nearest to where the violation or foul occurred.

To compound the error, the crew also inbounded the ball in the FC with only 20 seconds on the shotclock. Even if they believed the F1 occurred in the FC, there should be at least 28 seconds on the shotclock.

That is why most good crews will go to the monitor when any type of flagrant foul is called; they can review spot of foul and any type of clock adjustments that need to be made.

Wow, I didn't even pay attention to all of that during the game. I usually catch those types of mistakes. :o

JRutledge Wed Apr 21, 2021 09:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahoopref (Post 1042969)
F1 occurred in the BC. The ball should have been inbounded in the BC resumed at the sideline nearest the point of interruption or the designated spot nearest to where the violation or foul occurred.

To compound the error, the crew also inbounded the ball in the FC with only 20 seconds on the shotclock. Even if they believed the F1 occurred in the FC, there should be at least 28 seconds on the shotclock.

That is why most good crews will go to the monitor when any type of flagrant foul is called; they can review spot of foul and any type of clock adjustments that need to be made.

I noticed that later. And I see why it was put where it was because when the play had a whistle, where was the player. A good lesson for all of us and at the NCAA it matters because of where you put the ball in play now (tick marks at 28-foot mark and endline marking).

Now if they had put the ball in the backcourt, it is set to 30. If they put the ball in the FC, they get I believe at 20 if you deem this was a turnover foul (in other words no possession when the foul occurred. I can certainly make a case this was still a defensive player at the time of the foul. Just tapping the ball away is not considered possession. Heck, I could make a case that this is a TC foul at the high school level which would result in no free throws if we do not call an Intentional Foul here. Certainly, a lot going on here and this is why these plays are not just one-dimensional.

Good catch. I do agree with the monitor part, but they are getting on them to not go for a lot of other reasons. So I think this was an obvious foul application at first and the other things might not have been considered.

Peace

JRutledge Wed Apr 21, 2021 09:58am

Play #5:
 
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Peace

JRutledge Wed Apr 21, 2021 02:00pm

Play #6:
 
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bob jenkins Wed Apr 21, 2021 02:27pm

Play 6: Travelling

ilyazhito Wed Apr 21, 2021 02:53pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1042992)
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Peace

It is goaltending, because the ball was outside the cylinder and on its downward flight. I would have called it as such at both the NFHS and NCAA levels.

Camron Rust Wed Apr 21, 2021 02:56pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1042992)
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Peace

It appears that the ball hit the glass first, but even with the slow-mo, it isn't entirely certain. He may have touched it just prior to it rebounding off the backboard, after which the recoil caused him to force it back to the board.

It looks like a good call at a glance and I see nothing to overturn it but I wouldn't be surprised if there had been a camera shot directly form the side that would show his hand touching the ball first.

Raymond Wed Apr 21, 2021 06:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1042992)
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Peace

Passing on the travel allows for points to be scored via a different violation.

Missing the travel is important on this play. But the play at the basket is definitely a goaltending.


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