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Old Sat Mar 27, 2021, 06:38pm
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Is White #1 properly charged with an "off ball" foul on this play? Does he foul more than once on this play?

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Two choices: This is not a foul on White No. 1. White No. 1 commits multiple fouls on this play.

My comment: White No. 1 commits multiple fouls on this play. Holding foul.
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Old Sun Mar 28, 2021, 07:21am
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Yes, multiple fouls.
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Old Sun Mar 28, 2021, 11:43am
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Is White #1 properly charged with an "off ball" foul on this play? Does he foul more than once on this play?

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Two choices: This is not a foul on White No. 1. White No. 1 commits multiple fouls on this play.

My comment: White No. 1 commits multiple fouls on this play. Holding foul.


Not quite five seconds into the video is the first Holding Foul by W1 against R1. Get that first PF, a CF in this play, and we do not have the second PF by W1.

Let me add this: In the first PF that was not called. The play started with both W1 and R1 standing with W1 left arm stretched out in front of R1, while this can be construed as Holding it is not Holding until R1 attempts to move through W1's outstretched arm and W1 fails to drop his arm: That is then the Holding Foul.

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Old Sun Mar 28, 2021, 01:21pm
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While adhering to the letter of the letter, I am not crazy about that foul. White is leaning and has a wrap, but Red is standing wider than his shoulders and not attempting much of anything other than standing there. Now, attempt to throw him the ball, or have him attempt to move and be restricted, that's a foul. But just standing there in the post attempting nothing I probably talk to them both about it during the action -- "Easy down here in the post guys!! EASY!" - Then if red tries throwing in there and there is a restriction I would crack it.

Generally speaking, that's how it would be handled in my neck of the woods.
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Old Sun Mar 28, 2021, 01:32pm
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I am not crazy about that foul. White is leaning and has a wrap, but Red is standing wider than his shoulders and not attempting much of anything other than standing there. Now, attempt to throw him the ball, or have him attempt to move and be restricted, that's a foul.
I see your point, but, especially on the far side of the lane, White is definitely holding, actually holding with two arms at one point. After they move over to the near side of the lane the holding is definitely less severe, but it's still there. I wish that Lead had caught the earlier foul.

Give White #1 some credit. He's trying to be an aggressive pest, like a mosquito, or a gnat, defending an opponent almost a foot taller than he. You've got to love his guts, his confidence, and unabashed effort.

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Old Sun Mar 28, 2021, 06:38pm
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I saw no displacement or restriction. I just saw a smaller player trying to keep his position.

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Old Mon Mar 29, 2021, 09:27am
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Restriction ...

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I saw no ... restriction.
Watch White's left arm at the 3 second video mark (4:30 game clock mark), preventing Red from moving from the far low post to the high post.

Wasn't whistled, but probably should have been called.

On the other hand, the call that was whistled by the Lead at the end of the video, in the near side low post, was probably questionable.
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