Air Ball Free Throw ...
 

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High school rules.

How many of us sound our whistle for every free throw air ball violation? Or do some us only sound our whistle for air ball free throw violations when there will be rebounders (i.e., not for the first of two, or not for a technical foul free throw as in the video)? If so, why not for every free throw air ball violation (it is a violation)? Not to embarrass the free throw shooter more than he already is? After all, the scorekeeper and everybody else in the gym knows that the airball free throw was definitely unsuccessful so no whistle is needed (although it's probably required).

Another free throw whistle question.

How many of us sound our whistle before a free throw following a timeout (as we do before a throwin following a timeout, or intermission)?

For me, I only whistle air ball free throw violations when there will be rebounders; and I almost never whistle before a free throw following a timeout. Right or wrong, this (both) is what most of us do here in my little corner of Connecticut.

I sound the whistle each time there are free throws following a timeout, as it isn't different than a throw-in. There may be music playing or other activity occurring and the whistle brings everyone's attention back to the game.

The IAABO manual shows this on pages 91 & 218. The Federation manual doesn't explicitly state this, instead only referring to the succeeding throw-in to resume play.

Free Throw Whistle ...
 

Thanks for the citation Mike Goodwin.

I know that we're wrong, I understand the rationale, and we were actually reminded to do this a few years ago by our local interpreter, but old habits die hard.

All of my local guys would sound their whistle if there was music still playing, or if there were cheerleaders still on the court, but most probably not at other times.

Maybe this why many of my local colleagues, including me, are reluctant to do this.

Older, more experienced officials, like me, on my local board were taught and used NFHS mechanics before switching to IAABO mechanics.


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Funnily enough, I was brought up on IAABO mechanics starting in 1985 (also making me old), but I don't distinctly remember sounding the whistle before free throw(s) following a time-out until I "discovered" it in the manual in 2016 or 2017. Older manuals didn't specifically state it before then (though my library is far less complete than that of MTD, Sr.).

Ah, so it isn't quite an 'old dog, new trick' thing!

I was an IAABO cadet in 2015, so my first edition of the manual was the 2015-16 one. I believe it had blowing the whistle after a timeout before a free throw in it. Because it is in the IAABO manual, I blow my whistle after a timeout and before a free throw attempt as Lead (because I am the administering official). I also blow the whistle on all airball free throws and free throws that hit the backboard but not the ring if I have responsibility for the free thrower (Trail in a crew of 2, Center in a crew of 3).

Not for a situation like this, I doubt I would blow the whistle. The ball is already dead and the ball was not going to be live on a miss. So no need IMO to blow the whistle for the most part. Nothing wrong if you do, just not a need.

Peace

Not IAABO Kosher ...
 

I also "discovered" it accidently, but chose to keep it my secret and ignore it, thinking it was not be be used locally since (we do have some local mechanics that aren't quite IAABO kosher) up until that point it had never been mentioned as a change by our local interpreter, who only mentioned it quite recently, and only in response to a mechanics refresher exam question.

The whistle prior to administering FTs upon resuming play following a time-out is in the NFHS mechanics.

I've been through the officials manual cover to cover and can't find that reference, Nevada. Where is it?!

Resuming play after a time-out or intermission is at 4.4.4.D.4 (p.56) 5.4.4.D.4 and (p.91) but only refers to a throw-in, not free throws.

Dueling Mechanics ...
 

IAABO switched from NFHS mechanics to IAABO mechanics in 2004-05. So it must have taken about twelve years to change the mechanic to a whistle before a free throw after a timeout.

IAABO Manual ...
 

Whistle before a free throw after a timeout first appeared in the IAABO mechanics manual in 2011-12, but I do not remember it being publicized: When a timeout is followed by a free throw, sound the whistle prior to administering the free throw.

What's It Gonna Be Boy ???
 

Paradise By The Dashboard Light (Meat Loaf, 1977)

What's it gonna be boys?

"Let me sleep on it..." because I'm waiting to see what Nevada comes back with. My search was fruitless.

Bat Out Of Hell ...
 

Nice to know we have Forum members who appreciate good music (and baseball Hall of Fame member Phil Rizzuto).

I've actually got this vinyl album.

Young'uns can look up the references on the Google.

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I can't sing to save my soul, but there was a time I could do Phil Rizzuto's part.

Holy Cow, I Think He's Gonna Make It ...
 

How is this relevant to anything? I thought the topic was air balls on a free throw and blowing the whistle. I do it on all air ball free throws for the sake of consistency, for the same reason why, as a back judge in a football game, I don't blow my whistle on a scoring kick until it passes through (or wide of) the uprights. In football, not blowing the whistle until it is allowed by rule saves me from inadvertent whistles, and in basketball, blowing the whistle on errant free throws that do not hit the ring, whether in flight or on a bounce off the backboard, allows the officials and players to smoothly progress to the next play, whether a following free throw or a throw-in for B (the non-shooting team) at a designated spot.

Some of us don't like checking in on a thread only to find a bunch of off-topic responses. Billy often laments the down tick in discussions on this site. I'll often not look in on a thread if Billy is the last to post because it will most likely be him responding to himself and/or an off-topic response.

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Stick around a while longer, Mike, and you'll understand.

Personal Conversation ...
 

ilyazhito, LRZ, and Raymond are right.

I regretted it soon after (before ilyazhito, LRZ, and Raymond's posts) I posted it (the "quote" was much longer than I anticipated, and I only noticed its "true" length later).

Got caught up in a personal "conversation" with Mike Goodwin (the grasshopper will soon learn not to encourage me).

I've got to remember that the Forum isn't my local gin joint.

Sorry.

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Crash Landed In An Explosive Ball Of Flames ...
 

Here's the road to disaster.

Post title "What's It Gonna Be Boy?" (lyric from Paradise By The Dashboard Light, Meat Loaf, 1977) was to encourage Nevadaref to followup with a citation regarding his assertation (politely disputed by Mike Goodwin) that there is a NFHS mechanic manual guideline to whistle prior to administering free throws upon resuming play following a time-out. Certainly on topic.

That's when things started going sideways.

Mike Goodwin replied with "Let me sleep on it", another lyric from the same song.

Mike Goodwin later referred to lyrics from the same song spoken by former New York Yankees shortstop, New York Yankees broadcaster, and Baseball Hall of Famer, Phil "Holy Cow" Rizzuto.

And then I took over the controls from Mike Goodwin, spiraled the plane out of the sky, and crash landed in an explosive ball of flames.

Please don't make me post the Paradise By The Dashboard Light music video.

That would only get me in more trouble.