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Old Sun Feb 28, 2021, 12:40pm
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The girl picked up her dribble. Didn't know what to do with the ball. She just tossed it in the air? The ball bounces a few feet from her and then she picked it up. What do we have?
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Old Sun Feb 28, 2021, 12:48pm
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The girl picked up her dribble. Didn't know what to do with the ball. She just tossed it in the air? The ball bounces a few feet from her and then she picked it up. What do we have?
Illegal dribble.

While the toss into the air could have been a pass (or maybe even a try), once it was determined that it wasn't a try, wasn't touched by an opponent, or wasn't a pass or fumble touched by another player; her toss hitting the floor and her subsequently touching it became a second illegal (double) dribble.

9-5 Illegal Dibble: A player must not dribble a second time after her first dribble has ended, unless it is after he/she has lost control because of: A try for field goal. A touch by an opponent. A pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by, another player.
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Old Sun Feb 28, 2021, 12:53pm
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The girl picked up her dribble. Didn't know what to do with the ball. She just tossed it in the air? The ball bounces a few feet from her and then she picked it up. What do we have?
In addition to the illegal dribble play (above):

If she tossed the ball into the air and never (relatively speaking) touched it again (assume it's the start of a bounce pass to God knows where), we've got nothing. Play on.

If she tossed the ball to the air, didn't move her feet, ball didn't touch the floor, and she caught the ball, we've got nothing. Play on.

4.44.3 Situation C: A1 tosses the ball from one hand to the other while keeping her pivot foot in contact with the floor. Ruling: Legal.

If she tossed the ball to the air, moved her pivot foot, ball didn't touch the floor, and she subsequently caught ball, we've got a traveling violation.

4.44.3 Situation C: A1 throws the ball over the head of B1 and then takes several steps before catching it. Ruling: Traveling violation since the ball did not touch the floor, the tossing and subsequent catch is illegal.

4-44: Traveling is moving a foot or feet in any direction in excess of prescribed limits while holding the ball. The pivot foot may be lifted, but not returned to the floor, before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal.

Fun play. Thanks Jqb12.
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Old Sun Feb 28, 2021, 02:04pm
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Never had that happen in that way before. My partner called traveling, then we just looked at each other, all 3 of us, like "what the hell was that"?
Now if the girl would've just caught a pass, stood there, and then "throws" the ball out there, it bounces, and then she picks it up, is that "throw" considered the start of a dribble then?

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Old Sun Feb 28, 2021, 02:45pm
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Never had that happen in that way before. My partner called traveling, then we just looked at each other, all 3 of us, like "what the hell was that"?
Now if the girl would've just caught a pass, stood there, and then "throws" the ball out there, it bounces, and then she picks it up, is that "throw" considered the start of a dribble then?

Yes.
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Old Sun Feb 28, 2021, 03:13pm
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Now if the girl would've just caught a pass, stood there, and then "throws" the ball out there, it bounces, and then she picks it up, is that "throw" considered the start of a dribble then?
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Yes.
I like bob jenkins' answer better than my answer.

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Old Sun Feb 28, 2021, 02:56pm
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Now if the girl would've just caught a pass, stood there, and then "throws" the ball out there, it bounces, and then she picks it up, is that "throw" considered the start of a dribble then?
Depends on what the meaning of "throw" is?



Unless she lifted her pivot foot before she released ("throw") the ball to start her dribble, this sounds like a legal play (nothing more than a one bounce dribble).

If she had lifted her pivot foot before she released the ball, and if it ("throw") turned out be a pass, or a try; that also legal.

If it was deemed a try, it's legal, she gets a "fresh start", and can legally start a dribble if she wants to.

If it was deemed a pass (remember, she lifted her pivot foot before she released the ball), then she subsequently picks up the bounced ball (assuming it wasn't fumbled), the ball being untouched by anyone else, that's an odd illegal "self-bounce-pass" (that really, by rule language, can't exist), and it would be considered a traveling violation (even if no steps were taken, it's the premature lifting of the pivot foot that makes it a travel).
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Old Sun Feb 28, 2021, 03:37pm
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What The Hell Was That ???

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Player A1 stops the dribble, looks around, is getting some intense pressure. Tosses the ball up at random. Ball hits the floor and bounces back up to him.
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The girl picked up her dribble. Didn't know what to do with the ball. She just tossed it in the air? The ball bounces a few feet from her and then she picked it up.
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My partner called traveling ...
Close. In its simplest form, most likely an illegal (double) dribble.

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