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SNIPERBBB Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by thumpferee (Post 1040118)
You can't?

Goaltending is only for tries. You can have BI on throwin and attempts at wrong goal.

BillyMac Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:33pm

Goaltending ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thumpferee (Post 1040118)
You can't?

Goaltending is when a player touches the ball during a try, or tap, while it is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, outside the imaginary cylinder above the ring, and has the possibility of entering the basket.

(Or a player touches the ball outside the cylinder during a free-throw attempt.)

Situation: Team A trails Team B 67 to 66 with 0.4 seconds left in the fourth period. A1 makes a throwin pass. Ball is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, outside the imaginary cylinder above the ring, has an excellent chance of entering the basket, and the ball is swatted to the floor by B1, followed by time expiring and the horn sounding in front of Team A's home crowd of 1,500 vociferous fans.

Whatcha got?

SC Official Thu Nov 19, 2020 01:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1040121)
Situation: Team A trails Team B 67 to 66 with 0.4 seconds left in the fourth period. A1 makes a throwin pass. Ball is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, outside the imaginary cylinder above the ring, has an excellent chance of entering the basket, and the ball is swatted to the floor by B1, followed by time expiring and the horn sounding in front of Team A's home crowd of 1,500 vociferous fans.

Whatcha got?

The end of the game and a police escort.

thumpferee Thu Nov 19, 2020 02:36pm

Ok, BI not GT. Thanks for clarifying.

ilyazhito Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1040121)
Goaltending is when a player touches the ball during a try, or tap, while it is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, outside the imaginary cylinder above the ring, and has the possibility of entering the basket.

(Or a player touches the ball outside the cylinder during a free-throw attempt.)

Situation: Team A trails Team B 67 to 66 with 0.4 seconds left in the fourth period. A1 makes a throwin pass. Ball is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, outside the imaginary cylinder above the ring, has an excellent chance of entering the basket, and the ball is swatted to the floor by B1, followed by time expiring and the horn sounding in front of Team A's home crowd of 1,500 vociferous fans.

Whatcha got?

Basket interference, score 2 points for A, A wins, game over. After awaarding the points for the basket interference by B, get out of Dodge.

bob jenkins Fri Nov 20, 2020 06:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1040127)
Basket interference, score 2 points for A, A wins, game over. After awaarding the points for the basket interference by B, get out of Dodge.

Why would the game be over if it were BI?

(edited to clarify)

ODog Fri Nov 20, 2020 09:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1040127)
Basket interference, score 2 points for A, A wins, game over. After awaarding the points for the basket interference by B, get out of Dodge.

This is nothing. Ball is outside the cylinder, so no BI. Clock starts on B1’s legal touch and the game is over. Run off the court ... even in Massachusetts!

SC Official Fri Nov 20, 2020 09:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1040127)
Basket interference, score 2 points for A, A wins, game over. After awaarding the points for the basket interference by B, get out of Dodge.

Other than touching the ball outside the cylinder while reaching through the basket from below, can you EVER have BI when the ball is outside the cylinder?

JRutledge Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:29am

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1040130)
Other than touching the ball outside the cylinder while reaching through the basket from below, can you EVER have BI when the ball is outside the cylinder?

No you cannot. And it is not a try so it is not GT either.

Peace

Nevadaref Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1040127)
Basket interference, score 2 points for A, A wins, game over. After awaarding the points for the basket interference by B, get out of Dodge.

Can I get a heehaw for this donkey answer?

You just awarded the win to the wrong team!

LRZ Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:59am

Seriously, give ilyazhito a break. He probably either overlooked the "outside the cylinder" or inadvertently read it as "inside."

BillyMac Fri Nov 20, 2020 01:00pm

Basket Interference ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1040121)
Situation: Team A trails Team B 67 to 66 with 0.4 seconds left in the fourth period. A1 makes a throwin pass. Ball is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, outside the imaginary cylinder above the ring, has an excellent chance of entering the basket, and the ball is swatted to the floor by B1, followed by time expiring and the horn sounding in front of Team A's home crowd of 1,500 vociferous fans.

To be fair to ilyazhito, as stated by SC Official, there is one way that basket interference could have been correctly called. I never stated how B1 got to the ball.

I'm not any better than the NFHS or IAABO at writing good unambiguous questions.

4-6-3: Basket interference occurs when a player: Touches the ball outside the cylinder while reaching through the basket from below.

BillyMac Fri Nov 20, 2020 01:12pm

The Lights Went Out In Massachusetts (The Bee Gees, 1967) ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ODog (Post 1040129)
Run off the court ... even in Massachusetts!

Funny.

ODog: Care to explain for the newer Forum members who are not from Massachusetts who may fail to see any humor in this?

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.b...=0&w=257&h=174

BillyMac Fri Nov 20, 2020 01:16pm

The Mouse Ran Up The Clock ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1040127)
Basket interference, score 2 points for A, A wins, game over.

Is the game over? Would the clock start on the illegal touch?

5-9-4: If play is resumed by a throw-in, the clock must be started when the ball touches, or is legally touched by, a player on the court after it is released by the thrower.

bob jenkins Fri Nov 20, 2020 01:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1040138)
Is the game over? Would the clock start on the illegal touch?

Already asked (but not answered) up in post #22.

And, if this had been an AP throw-in, would the arrow switch?


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