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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

There isn’t one. MTD’s case play ruling is incorrect. Sad that Mary Struckhoff was convinced by it. The team should comply with the substitution rule and temporarily play with four as an older case play ruling states to do when a player has an asthma attack.

Sorry Nevadaref, I should have know that this situation "yanks your chain".

But as President Trump stated a few weeks ago, "It is what it is".

https://forum.officiating.com/basket...ml#post1037607

And Nevadaref still gets the extra credit.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

There isn’t one. MTD’s case play ruling is incorrect. Sad that Mary Struckhoff was convinced by it. The team should comply with the substitution rule and temporarily play with four as an older case play ruling states to do when a player has an asthma attack.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Sorry Nevadaref, I should have know that this situation "yanks your chain".

But as President Trump stated a few weeks ago, "It is what it is".

https://forum.officiating.com/basket...ml#post1037607

And Nevadaref still gets the extra credit.

I) 2002-03 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations SITUATION 5:

A) The Rules Reference R3-S3-A5 is a typographical error.

1) It is my humble opinion that the correct Rules Reference is R3-S3-A4 and R3-S3-A6.

a) R3-S3-A6 (from the 2002-03 NFHS Rules Book): "A player who has been injured to the extent that the coach or any other bench personnel is beckoned and/or comes onto the court shall be directed to leave the game, unless a time-out is requested by, and granted to, his/her team
and the situation can be corrected by the end of the time-out."

i) The word "shall" in the first sentence was changed to "must" in the 2019-20 NFHS Rules Book.

2) Furthermore, a third Rules Reference should have been included in SITUATION 5:

a) R3-S1-A1: "Each team consists of five players, one of whom is the captain. NOTE: A Team must begin the game with five players, but if it has no substitutes to replace disqualified or injured players, it must continue with fewer than five. When there is only one player participating for a team, the team shall forfeit the game unless the referee believes that [the] team has an opportunity to win the game."

B) While Situation 5 was published in the Pre-Season Rules Interpretations and was never subsequently added to the Casebook it still remains in effect as would any other published Casebook Play would be (even it is subsequently removed from the Casebook) until a Rule change is adopted that would necessitate a change in the RULING.

C) Based upon the three Rules References that I have provided the RULING in Situation 5 is correct.


II) NFHS Casebook Play 8.2 Situation B (CB Play 8.2B):

A) There is one striking difference between 2002-03 NFHS Rules Interpretations SITUATIOIN 5 and CB Play 8.2B.

1) Team A, in SITUATION 5, had no Substitutes to replace A1 (I assigned the Player with asthma the number A1).

2) Team B, in CB Play 8.2B, had a Substitute as Bench Personnel.

B) When writing the RULING for CB Play 8.2B, I only referenced R2-S3 and R3-S3-A4, but upon reflection I should also have included R3-S1-A1 and R3-S3-A6. But I digress for the moment.

C) We had two opposing Rules that applied to CB Play 8.2B.

1) R3-S1-A1 specifically states that a Team consists of five Players. And must continue to play with less than five Players when it has no substitutes to replace an injured Player.

2) R3-S3-A4 says that B2, "under normal conditions" cannot return to the game until the first opportunity to substitute AFTER the Game Clock has started. But CB Play 8.2B is not a "normal condition".

D) The debate raged around the following question: Which Rule governed: R3-S1-A1 or R3-S3-A4?

1) Was B2 an:

a) eligible Substitute per R3-S1-A1? or

b) ineligible eligible Substitute per R3-S3-A4?

2) There were those (NevadaRef for one) who took the position that R3-S3-A4 governed and it was too bad if Team B had to play with only four players until B2 became an eligible Substitute per R3-S3-A4.

3) I took the position that R3-S1-A1 governed for the following three reasons in order of importance:

a) R3-S1-A1's requirement for five Players to be in the Game when there are five eligible Players, not withstanding R3-S3-A4, is absolute. R3-S3-A4 was written I doubt that the NBC Rules Committee meant to have a Team to be put at a disadvantage because of an injured Play, especially in II-D-3-b below.

b) Illegal contact by A1 caused B2 to become injured and could not remain in the Game.

i) Team B should not be put a disadvantage of playing short-handed against Team A because Team A's infraction of the Rules caused Team B to be short-handed.

c) R2-S3: Sometimes known as "The God Clause". Which must take into account both R3-S1-A1 and R3-S3-A4.

MTD, Sr.