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Nevadaref Wed Jul 01, 2020 01:33am

Blocking foul for both of your questions.

In part b, you wrote that the defender attempted to obtain LGP. I understand that as he tried, but was unable to do so prior to the time of contact. The fact that W1 changed his path to a new one prior to contact is not relevant. He could have done so five times and it wouldn’t matter. Only his final path is important. If it isn’t the same as the opponent, then we aren’t governed by the screening rules. Guarding rules are controlling as these final paths converge and a moving defender at the time of contact without LGP is guilty of a blocking foul by rule.

In part c, again the moment that W1 changes direction, he takes on a new path or vector. So he is still “moving in his path” when contact occurs. Don’t get distracted by a red herring here. Changing one’s path isn’t the relevant factor. Neither B1 or W1 are stationary or moving in the same path and direction as the opposing player, so a legal screen is not occurring. Both players are moving so we don’t have to consider the rule about legality occupying a spot on the floor and being displaced. What we have is movement as both players strive to reach a desired location and contact occurs. We need to determine which player is at fault or if it is incidental contact. Incidental contact isn’t appropriate as both players aren’t in equally favorable positions, rather one player is attempting to cut the other one off and prevent him from going to his desired location. So we need to determine if he placed his body in the path of the opponent legally. Without obtaining ILGP, he did not, hence a blocking foul.

bucky Thu Jul 02, 2020 01:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1038993)
You need to learn to officiate according to the rules and not just by what you like or don’t like.

Sure, I do not mind discussing the needs of other people. For you, try learning to read. Try to understand vocabulary, words, their meaning, sentences, etc. Once you have read something, keep the information provided in mind without changing anything to accommodate your perspective. Remove perceived tone and focus on the words when they are provided. Additionally, there is no need to ever indicate that someone needs to "..officiate according to the rules.." when you do not. There is not one person that officiates by all of the rules 100% of the time. By nature, that is not possible.

You strike me as someone who "gets that last word in" so here is another opportunity for that.

Nevadaref Thu Jul 02, 2020 04:28pm

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Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1039004)
Sure, I do not mind discussing the needs of other people. For you, try learning to read. Try to understand vocabulary, words, their meaning, sentences, etc. One you have read something, keep the information provided in mind without changing anything to accommodate your perspective. Remove perceived tone and focus on the words when they are provided. Additionally, there is no need to ever indicate that someone needs to "..officiate according to the rules.." when you do not. There is not one person that officiates by all of the rules 100% of the time. By nature, that is not possible.

You strike me as someone who "gets that last word in" so here is another opportunity for that.

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