Foul after made basket
 

A1 makes a basket and as the ball is coming through the net and hits the floor and before B1 has the ball for the throw in, A2 bumps into B2 and B2 hits the ground.

Is this considered a Common foul or a dead ball contact Tech?

Is it a dead ball period after the made basket but before the throw in?

NFHS and NCAA W rules...

Thanks!

Possible Dead Ball Contact Technical Foul ...
 

It's a dead ball so ignore contact unless it's intentional or flagrant, in which case it would be a dead ball contact technical foul.

NFHS

6-1-2-B: The ball becomes live when: On a throw-in, it is at the disposal of the thrower.

6-7-1: The ball becomes dead, or remains dead, when: A goal is made.

4-19-Note: Contact after the ball has become dead is incidental unless it is
ruled intentional or flagrant or is committed by or on an airborne shooter.

4-19-5-C: A technical foul is: An intentional or flagrant contact foul while the ball is dead, except
a foul by an airborne shooter.

Dead ball once the ball is through the net. It remains dead until the throw-in begins (typically when B has the ball and is OOB for a throwin).

The contact during this interval can not be personal. If it is such that during a live ball it would have intentional or flagrant, then you call a technical. If it does not rise to that level, it is ignored.

Personal foul under NCAAW. I agree with the above (ignored or T) for NFHS.

Technical Foul ...
 

NFHS: If you do choose to rule an intentional foul, or a flagrant foul, it would be a dead ball contact technical foul, and remember that it's a technical foul so any player on the Team B can shoot the two free throw for the technical and the throwin is made by Team B at the division line opposite the table (even if it's ruled an intentional foul).

Was the bump accidental? Was the contact severe or excessive?

When the ball is dead you can never have a personal foul (with one rare exception) under NFHS (or NCAA-M, for completeness' sake).

You're A Tease ...
 

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I'm intrigued. Go on ...

Foul on or against an airborne shooter after a goaltend or basket interference.

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Simpler than that.

Foul on or against an airborne shooter after the ball is dead (for whatever reason). You have a dead ball with an airborne shooter for at least a moment on almost all successful dunks.

True. I just threw out the first thing immediately came to mine

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With Rare Exception ...
 

I thought it had something to do with an airborne shooter, but I couldn't pull the trigger.

Here are two more "rare exception" situations:

A player must be holding the ball (with rare exception) in order to travel.

A player who has been replaced, or directed to leave the game, shall not reenter (with rare exception) before the next opportunity to substitute after the clock has been started properly following his, or her, replacement.

I'll Take Rare Exceptions for $200 Alex ...
 

I didn't think that is was necessary for me to put these in the form of a question.

Anybody know either, or both, of these "rare exception" situations?

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I thought we covered the OP's scenario between my specific example and Camron's broader response?

Why would we be assuming you're giving us a test? I thought you were providing examples of "rare exceptions" unrelated to the OP's question. Are you saying you were asking us because you didn't know, but you forgot the question marks? Or are we testing on the definition of "rare exception"?

You've left me confused again.

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You might want to take the more direct approach so we veterans don't get confused about your intent and the youngins realize what you're doing.

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And Run With It ...
 

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I really believed that someone would take the bait.

Hmm
 

Player on the ground, sets ball down, etc...

Blood? T?

Handsome Reward ...
 

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Five Trumps Sit A Tick ...
 

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Casebook Play 8.2 SITUATION B: A1 is fouled and will be shooting two free throws. After A1’s first free-throw attempt, B6 (Team B’s only remaining eligible substitute) replaces B2. A1’s second free-throw attempt is unsuccessful. During rebounding action for A1’s missed second free-throw attempt, and before the clock starts, A1 pushes B3 in the back causing B3 to roll an ankle. Team B is in the bonus. B3 is unable to immediately continue playing. Team B requests and is granted a time out in order to allow B3 to recover from the ankle injury so as to remain in the game. B3 is still not able to play after the time out has ended. RULING: B2 may return to the game and replace B3 and shoot B3’s free throw attempts despite having been replaced since he/she is the only available substitute. (3-3-4)

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