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chapmaja Tue Jan 14, 2020 09:09pm

Over and back or not?
 
Had a discussion with a fellow official and we disagree on the ruling.

A passed the ball from the BC into the front court (to a player with both feet near the three point line on the floor). That player then passes to player who is coming up the floor and has one foot clearly touching completely in the front court and the second foot in the air having last touched the ground with that foot in the BC. What is the correct call?

My ruling is no violation as he has established FC position because he has a foot on the floor in the FC and the second foot is no longer touching in the BC (it was in the air).

Zoochy Tue Jan 14, 2020 09:51pm

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Originally Posted by chapmaja (Post 1036745)
Had a discussion with a fellow official and we disagree on the ruling.

A passed the ball from the BC into the front court (to a player with both feet near the three point line on the floor). That player then passes to player who is coming up the floor and has one foot clearly touching completely in the front court and the second foot in the air having last touched the ground with that foot in the BC. What is the correct call?

My ruling is no violation as he has established FC position because he has a foot on the floor in the FC and the second foot is no longer touching in the BC (it was in the air).

You made the correct ruling

ilyazhito Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:08pm

You are correct. There is no violation, because the player has frontcourt status (one foot is touching the floor in the frontcourt, nothing is touching the backcourt) when touching a ball with frontcourt status.

SC Official Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:48pm

Unfortunately too many officials believe the “three points” rule applies all the time when it reality it applies in only one situation–a dribble from the BC to the FC.

bas2456 Wed Jan 15, 2020 01:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1036748)
Unfortunately too many officials believe the “three points” rule applies all the time when it reality it applies in only one situation–a dribble from the BC to the FC.

Right. The ball already gained FC status when A2 caught the pass.

Nevadaref Wed Jan 15, 2020 01:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by chapmaja (Post 1036745)
Had a discussion with a fellow official and we disagree on the ruling.

A passed the ball from the BC into the front court (to a player with both feet near the three point line on the floor). That player then passes to player who is coming up the floor and has one foot clearly touching completely in the front court and the second foot in the air having last touched the ground with that foot in the BC. What is the correct call?

My ruling is no violation as he has established FC position because he has a foot on the floor in the FC and the second foot is no longer touching in the BC (it was in the air).

You are correct. This is basic understanding of the player location definition in Rule 4. That rule does not require both feet to contact the floor for a player to be located somewhere.

Raymond Wed Jan 15, 2020 08:42am

Whenever these types of discussion come up, I always want to know what reference the other person had to back up their position.

BillyMac Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:38am

Agree ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1036748)
Unfortunately too many officials believe the “three points” rule applies all the time when it reality it applies in only one situation–a dribble from the BC to the FC.

Sad, but true.

The great high school basketball official (and regular partner of Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.), Confucius, always said, "You are where you were until you get where you're going".


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