Leaving the bench prematurely?
 

A fellow official saw this in a college game the other day:
With time running out in the 4th quarter, team A takes the lead with 2 seconds left on the clock. With the excitement of their team taking the lead, some of the fans and a couple of the players (bench personnel) run onto the floor to celebrate the victory (prematurely). What do you do as the referee?
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If it’s a NFHS game, immediately upon the score I’m looking for the opposing timeout if they have one. If they do, grant it, note the exact time on the clock, replace time if you have definite knowledge, and clean up but otherwise ignore the shenanigans as it occurred basically simultaneously with the timeout call. Some may disagree but that’s how I would handle it and/or discuss it with my crew.

If the opposing team doesn’t have a timeout or chooses not to use one, or if it isn’t called absolutely immediately, then I have a bench technical per 10-5-2.

Standing by for the NCAA interps of this case. It’s a little different there since the clock automatically stops in this situation.


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Fans running onto the court is an administrative technical foul (10.2.8.d). The players coming onto the court is a class B technical foul charged to each player, and a class B technical foul charged to the head coach (10.4.2.h). Shoot two free throws (one for the administrative technical foul and one for the class B technical foul) and return to the point of interruption, which is a throw-in for B with 2 seconds left with the right to run the endline.

Would Rule 10-6-5 (Head Coach'e Rule) cover it better being that the players didn't leave the bench during a fight situation?

Is this the NCAA interpretation?

You’re conflating 10-5-2 with 10-5-5. 10-5-2 is adequate here and has nothing to do with a fight/fighting.


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From the NCAAM case book; empahsis added (NCAAW is at least substatially the same). In 99% of the cases, the actions do not stop the ball from being put in play -- there's a TO, or a monitor review, or the team members don't get far enough on the floor to stop the long pass by the other team, or ...

A.R. 263. Team B leads, 67-66. A1’s two-point try for goal is successful, but
there is no indication that time has expired. Assuming that the successful try
was a game-ending and winning goal:
1. Bench personnel from Team A; or
2. Fans from Team A go onto the playing court to celebrate.
RULING: When the celebration causes a delay by preventing the ball
from being promptly made live or prevents continuous play:
1: A CLASS B technical foul shall be assessed to the head coach of
Team A. The coach’s technical foul does not count toward the team
foul total but does count toward the coach’s ejection.
2: An administrative technical foul shall be assessed to the offending
team. This administrative technical foul does not apply to the team
foul total.
Any player from Team B shall attempt one free throw and play shall
resume at the point of interruption. When the celebration does not
delay or interfere with play, the celebration shall be ignored.
(Rule 10-2.8.d and Penalty, and 10-4.2.h and Penalty)

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OK, I got it
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Why is there only one free throw? AFAIK, both Class B and administrative technical fouls have a 1 free throw penalty, so if both happen simultaneously, it would only make sense to enforce both fouls.

Bench Personnel ...
 

The two cases in the AR are separate. In one, the bench (and no fans) goes out; in two the fans (and no bench) goes out.

That said, if the both went out, the first would stop all action, so the second wouldn't further delay the game.

That makes sense, however there is no current A.R. that addresses both situations happening as the OP describes. My solution might resolve the OP situation.

We don't need AR's that cover all possible combinations of events. If we did, the book would be the size of the Encyclopedia Britannica.

And Who's Jiminy Cricket ???
 

What's an Encyclopedia Britannica?

https://youtu.be/pP4aIH9s_ZI

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.E...=0&w=210&h=163

We might be able to have such a repository of the A.R.'s, because we don't need to keep it in physical form. There is a thing called the Internet /s.

All sarcasm aside, I would assess both penalties, first for the fans on the court, then for the players leaving the bench for an unauthorized reason (premature celebration).

Just penalize one or the other. Once one occurs the other is not holding up the game. You will have enforced a penalty without being overly officious.

IOW, what Bob said.

That makes sense. If I was Art, I would make sure to write up that interpretation officially, either as an AR or in a bulletin, to make things less confusing, and to prevent literal-minded officials from enforcing both penalties.

Again, you can't write up everything. If they did, it would take you until 2048 to read them all. Learn principles, not memorize every permutation of events.

I say let him enforce both in a future CBA game that he works and then let us know how the call goes with the assigner afterwards. [emoji12]


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As a game official you are supposed to prevent and solve problems not cause and compound them. If your mentality is to double-whack a team for what they thought was a game-winning shot, you are going to fail as an official.

Lighten up, Francis!

Technically, I would not be double-whacking the team. I would merely be administering the penalties for illegal actions by the team (the class B technical foul) and its followers (the administrative technical foul).

However, I see Bob's point in ruling that the delay by the fans stopped the game, so the team members entering the court did not further delay the game.

The fact that you have only one T for several members of the team entering the court should tell you that you only have one T here. Even though multiple team members enter, you only penalize the team. That makes it clear that for the situation, they only want ONE T instead of every team member that left the bench getting a T. Extend that principle and you still end up with ONE T if team members and fans enter the court.

Would the individual team members still be charged with Class B technical fouls for ejection purposes, even though only one free throw will be shot? In football, it is possible to have multiple players charged with an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, yet still only enforce the yardage once.

well, the case play says: 1: A CLASS B technical foul shall be assessed to the head coach of
Team A. The coach’s technical foul does not count toward the team
foul total but does count toward the coach’s ejection.

NCAA-M

If it "prevents continuous action," it's a Class B on the head coach. It's pretty simple. You do not penalize the bench personnel that rushed the court.