The Official Forum

The Official Forum (https://forum.officiating.com/)
-   Basketball (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/)
-   -   Vid request - Traveling in NBA vs others (https://forum.officiating.com/basketball/104539-vid-request-traveling-nba-vs-others.html)

bucky Sun Apr 21, 2019 04:59pm

Vid request - Traveling in NBA vs others
 
Video request for Warriors vs Clippers on ABC. With 4:34 left in the 4th quarter, KD controls a loose ball, travels, and passes to AI, who travels, and scores. Classic!

Found it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa83IndTJp8

Got to 11:27 mark in the video.

Raymond Sun Apr 21, 2019 06:35pm

Ok

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

BillyMac Sun Apr 21, 2019 06:43pm

Two Wrongs Make A Right ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1032459)
Video request for Warriors vs Clippers on ABC. With 4:34 left in the 4th quarter, KD controls a loose ball, travels, and passes to AI, who travels, and scores. Classic!

False multiple travel violation. They cancel each other out.

bucky Sun Apr 21, 2019 08:09pm

Found it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa83IndTJp8

Go to 11:27 of video.

SC Official Sun Apr 21, 2019 08:26pm

Oh look, another holier-than-thou high school official complaining about the NBA, and not knowing what he's talking about. Yawn.

On the Durant rebound you could argue that he didn't control the ball until his left foot touched the ground. And even if he clearly gained control with his right foot as the pivot, it's far from clear if he released the ball before the right foot came back down. That's not even a clear travel in NFHS/NCAA. But you're probably an "if it looks funny it's a travel" guy.

Iguodala's move wasn't anything close to a travel. The initial control with the left foot on the ground is the zero step.

You should probably learn NBA rules before creating stupid threads like this.

Jay R Sun Apr 21, 2019 09:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1032463)
Oh look, another holier-than-thou high school official complaining about the NBA, and not knowing what he's talking about. Yawn.

On the Durant rebound you could argue that he didn't control the ball until his left foot touched the ground. And even if he clearly gained control with his right foot as the pivot, it's far from clear if he released the ball before the right foot came back down. That's not even a clear travel in NFHS/NCAA. But you're probably an "if it looks funny it's a travel" guy.

Iguodala's move wasn't anything close to a travel. The initial control with the left foot on the ground is the zero step.

You should probably learn NBA rules before creating stupid threads like this.

Absolutely, two legal plays in the NBA. If people want to complain about traveling, go to NCAA where the Igoudala move is a travel yet officials pass on it.

Camron Rust Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay R (Post 1032465)
Absolutely, two legal plays in the NBA. If people want to complain about traveling, go to NCAA where the Igoudala move is a travel yet officials pass on it.

Yep....legal in the NBA.

Assume for a moment, the first one wasn't, or it was a college game. The T correctly took off to cover the break leaving no one in the right spot to have a good look at the ball. The C is looking through Durant's back and can't get a good look at the ball and the L is looking through several bodies. Even if were a violation and even if it were one they wanted to call, it would be a tough call to make.

bucky Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay R (Post 1032465)
Absolutely, two legal plays in the NBA. If people want to complain about traveling, go to NCAA where the Igoudala move is a travel yet officials pass on it.

That was kinda the point. A MS/HS ref would be all over these as travels but yet no one blinks if it is in the NBA. Then you have everything in between. The level of disparity is amazing.

Was there an update to the NBA book or video rule? The Igoudala play appears identical to the below NBA video, which the NBA indicated was a travel.

https://videorulebook.nba.com/archiv...ving-the-ball/

Camron Rust Mon Apr 22, 2019 02:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1032467)
That was kinda the point. A MS/HS ref would be all over these as travels but yet no one blinks if it is in the NBA. Then you have everything in between. The level of disparity is amazing.

Was there an update to the NBA book or video rule? The Igoudala play appears identical to the below NBA video, which the NBA indicated was a travel.

https://videorulebook.nba.com/archiv...ving-the-ball/

Uh, you were the one stating they were travels. :confused::confused::confused:

SC Official Mon Apr 22, 2019 06:29am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1032467)
That was kinda the point. A MS/HS ref would be all over these as travels but yet no one blinks if it is in the NBA. Then you have everything in between. The level of disparity is amazing.

No one blinks because they’re not travels in the NBA. If you don’t like the rule then take it up with the league office.

I can bet my soul that NBA officials are exponentially more accurate in adjudicating travels according to their ruleset than college/high school officials are according to theirs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1032459)
Video request for Warriors vs Clippers on ABC. With 4:34 left in the 4th quarter, KD controls a loose ball, travels, and passes to AI, who travels, and scores. Classic!


SC Official Mon Apr 22, 2019 06:32am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 1032466)
Yep....legal in the NBA.

Assume for a moment, the first one wasn't, or it was a college game. The T correctly took off to cover the break leaving no one in the right spot to have a good look at the ball. The C is looking through Durant's back and can't get a good look at the ball and the L is looking through several bodies. Even if were a violation and even if it were one they wanted to call, it would be a tough call to make.

And a lot of officials that would call it could only justify it by saying “it looked funny.”

Camron Rust Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1032470)
And a lot of officials that would call it could only justify it by saying “it looked funny.”

You're not incorrect.

JRutledge Mon Apr 22, 2019 01:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay R (Post 1032465)
Absolutely, two legal plays in the NBA. If people want to complain about traveling, go to NCAA where the Igoudala move is a travel yet officials pass on it.

What would be the reason they would pass on them? Maybe it would be because they are just two hard plays to cover and calling them would likely be questionable if we looked back at the replay.

Both plays are very tight and in many cases hard to see at any level with quick enough players.

Peace

bucky Mon Apr 22, 2019 04:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 1032468)
Uh, you were the one stating they were travels. :confused::confused::confused:

Yes, from the point of view of NFHS, not the NBA.

The NBA even called it a travel so there must have been some sort of update....unless everyone on the forum that said the last move was not a travel was wrong.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:47pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1