Failure to legally inbound ball after made goal

[chet_hoyt]

Please allow me to clarify. The foot was covering the endline so that a portion of the foot was in bounds. It was clear to me that the inbounder (B1) was never OOB. In such a case, B2 had the option to take the ball OOB and become the inbounder, correct? If so, since he chose to NOT do that and advance the ball toward the front court, team B exceeded their 5 second time limit to properly inbound the ball.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by chet_hoyt

Please allow me to clarify. The foot was covering the endline so that a portion of the foot was in bounds. It was clear to me that the inbounder (B1) was never OOB. In such a case, B2 had the option to take the ball OOB and become the inbounder, correct? If so, since he chose to NOT do that and advance the ball toward the front court, team B exceeded their 5 second time limit to properly inbound the ball.

No.

It is a violation to make a throw-in after a made basket from inbounds. It's not a "do-over." It's not a 5-second violation.

It's a violation as soon as the team simulates a throw-in without getting out of bounds.

Just make sure that the thrower is clearly not OOB before whistling it. Don't split hairs.

[chet_hoyt]

Originally Posted by SC Official

It's a violation as soon as the team simulates a throw-in without getting out of bounds.

Interesting. I didn't know that. Is there a rule I can reference? Thanks again.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by chet_hoyt

Interesting. I didn't know that. Is there a rule I can reference?

9-2 ART. 2 The ball shall be passed by the thrower directly into the court
from out-of-bounds so it touches or is touched by another player (inbounds
or out of bounds) on the court before going out of bounds untouched.
ART. 5 The thrower shall not carry the ball onto the court.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

9-2 ART. 2 The ball shall be passed by the thrower directly into the court
from out-of-bounds so it touches or is touched by another player (inbounds
or out of bounds) on the court before going out of bounds untouched.
ART. 5 The thrower shall not carry the ball onto the court.

Chet I understand your point, because even with this rule citation, I think one can continue to say, "but he was never fully OOB, so this rule doesn't apply..." or something similar. However, B1 was clearly attempting to make a throw in, and his foot on the line makes him not out-of-bounds, as far as an inbounder is concerned.

You said you ruled it a 5 second violation, correct? What if B2 had traveled before you reached your 5 count? Would you have just not called anything? What if A1 stole the ball from a dribbling B2? Would you have called a T for interference with a player attempting to "In-bound" a ball?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by frezer11

... and his foot on the line makes him not out-of-bounds, as far as an inbounder ...

You mean "over the line"? Right?

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[frezer11]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

You mean "over the line"? Right?

You can be vertically over the line....

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chet_hoyt

Interesting. I didn't know that. Is there a rule I can reference? Thanks again.

The relevant case play was posted in post #2, only 2 minutes after you asked your question.