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MattReferee Thu Jan 24, 2019 07:23pm
Bonus 1-1 situation
 
A common foul against team”B”
7th team foul..2man I’m T plays above 3pt circle and I freeze knowing we’re bonus at this point and point out my shooter and also signal 1-1 , opposite side of table ,As I report to table my partner lines players up and HE signals 2 shots as I report foul to table “I don’t see OR hear this.
A-shoots and hits rim that deflects directly to B- on the block NO one moves and B throws ball to my partner and he catches ball🤷*♂️.
“What If below”
1-He is out of bounds
2-He is in bound on the floor
Please input

BryanV21 Thu Jan 24, 2019 07:41pm
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Originally Posted by MattReferee (Post 1029290)
A common foul against team”B”

7th team foul..2man I’m T plays above 3pt circle and I freeze knowing we’re bonus at this point and point out my shooter and also signal 1-1 , opposite side of table ,As I report to table my partner lines players up and HE signals 2 shots as I report foul to table “I don’t see OR hear this.

A-shoots and hits rim that deflects directly to B- on the block NO one moves and B throws ball to my partner and he catches ball[emoji1745]*[emoji3603].

“What If below”

1-He is out of bounds

2-He is in bound on the floor

Please input
Go to the arrow. The erroneous information provided by your partner led to the situation.

If both teams went for the rebound, meaning the erroneous information didn't lead to any issues, you could have played on.

Even if that one player kept the ball instead of giving it to your partner you'd still go to the arrow since the other team was at a disadvantage.

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BayStateRef Thu Jan 24, 2019 07:43pm
Go to the AP arrow. Casebook 8.6.1.

BillyMac Thu Jan 24, 2019 07:56pm
(Sittin' On) The Dock Of The Bay (Otis Redding, 1968) ...
 
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Originally Posted by BayStateRef (Post 1029292)
Go to the AP arrow. Casebook 8.6.1.
Nice citation BayStateRef. Thanks.

8.6.1 SITUATION: A1 is about to attempt the first of a one-and-one free-throw situation. The administering official steps in and erroneously informs players that two free throws will be taken. A1's first attempt is unsuccessful. The missed free throw is rebounded by: (a) B1, with all other players motionless in anticipation of another throw; (b) A2, with all other players motionless in anticipation of another throw; or (c) B2, with several players from both teams attempting to secure the rebound. The officials recognize their error at this point. RULING: In (a) and (b), the official's error clearly put one team at a disadvantage (players stood motionless and didn't attempt to rebound). Play should be ruled dead immediately and resumed using the alternating-possession procedure. In (c), both teams made an attempt to rebound despite the official's error and had an equal opportunity to gain possession of the rebound. Play should continue. (2-3; 2-10)

LRZ Thu Jan 24, 2019 09:04pm
And don't forget to tell/remind your partner not to put the ball in play without eye contact with you. Why is he administering FTs while you are still reporting the foul?

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:01pm
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Originally Posted by LRZ (Post 1029294)
And don't forget to tell/remind your partner not to put the ball in play without eye contact with you. Why is he administering FTs while you are still reporting the foul?

Good advice.

Also, after reporting the Foul always communicate with L how many FTs are to be shoot before allowing him to administer the FTs.

MTD, Sr.

Raymond Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:12pm
I pregame with my crew that we do not shoot free throws until the Trail turns and signals how many shots there will be. Of course pre-gaming and what actually happens once the game starts are two different things.


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SE Minnestoa Re Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:09am
I work with the same partner pretty much all the time. He did this ONCE.

Since then, we never do free throws until we are both ready and have made eye contact.

BillyMac Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:39am
What's The Rush ???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LRZ (Post 1029294)
Why is he administering FTs while you are still reporting the foul?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 1029297)
After reporting the Foul always communicate with L how many FTs are to be shoot before allowing him to administer the FTs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1029299)
I pregame with my crew that we do not shoot free throws until the Trail turns and signals how many shots there will be.
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Originally Posted by SE Minnestoa Re (Post 1029309)
...we never do free throws until we are both ready and have made eye contact.
It seems that, here on the Forum, once or twice every season we hear about one official administering a free throw before the other official has returned from reporting the foul the table. It probably shouldn't, but it still surprises me, confounds me, and amazes me every single time. What's the rush?

Raymond Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:52am
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1029311)
It seems that, here on the Forum, once or twice every season we hear about one official administering a free throw before the other official has returned from reporting the foul the table. It probably shouldn't, but it still surprises me, confounds me, and amazes me every single time. What's the rush?
It's due to a lack of basic communication fundamentals. I would say more than 50% of my pregame touches on communication. I can't tell other officials how to officiate, but I sure as hell can set the tone for how we are going to communicate as crew.

MattReferee Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:01am
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Originally Posted by raymond (Post 1029314)
it's due to a lack of basic communication fundamentals. I would say more than 50% of my pregame touches on communication. I can't tell other officials how to officiate, but i sure as hell can set the tone for how we are going to communicate as crew.
amen

BillyMac Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:48am
Out Of Style ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1029314)
I would say more than 50% of my pregame touches on communication.
Nice to hear that you think that pregames are important, and that you actually do them. They have become less frequent around here lately, and are even becoming less stylish in our varsity games.

Raymond Sat Jan 26, 2019 07:55pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1029346)
Nice to hear that you think that pregames are important, and that you actually do them. They have become less frequent around here lately, and are even becoming less stylish in our varsity games.
It bothers me when I'm not the crew chief and we have a young U2 and the R doesn't think it's important to have a pregame.

It also bothers me when crew chiefs don't send out game confirmation texts/emails to the crew.

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