They're the same to me.

The fox40 website seems to read that they are the same:

"same pea-less design and ultra shrill tone of the Classic."

Perhaps the people that you are comparing are blowing them differently. I know I hear differences from time to time but it is the person, not the whistle since they have the same kind.

[Edited by Camron Rust on Oct 15th, 2003 at 01:47 PM]

Am I the only person that has a can of static guard in my bag?

I hear a definite difference, but I wouldn't call it pitch, I'd call it volume. The mini is much better for MS games with five total fans. In the cross-town rival play-off game with the SRO crowd, mini WON"T do.

That reminds me! I have a bottle of lotion to take care of this problem. I put lotion on my legs and have no problem with static.

Just so I have this straight. . .

I get ragged on for breath strips, but nobody's gonna mock Indy for moisturizing before a game?!?!?!

This is an outrage!!

Chuck,

Give 'em some time! I'll get my ragging! I know my suggestion sounds a little kinky, but it really works well.

Chuck,

I guess some people just provoke it more than others. :D

Mregor

I talked to a coach once,after you did one of his games,Chuck. He said that you shoulda used KY Jelly.

...and he said that normally he likes to get kissed while he's getting...uhmmm, you know....but in Chuck's case he was fine with skipping that part.

Well, at least Chuck would have had fresh breath if kissing had been a part of it all!

The best I can find on the web...from several indirect sources...is that both produce a maximum of 115 dB.

Again, I bet is more in how they are blown than any real difference.

Are you camparing what it sounds like when you blow it or when someone else? If it is yourself, there may be some other factors.

A good test would be to have someone across the gym blow one (a) then the other (b) and then randomly blow one again (a or b). If you can tell which it is on a regular basis, the maybe their is a difference. Also, change the person blowing it.

The "test" where I see a consistent difference is the reaction of the player who is standing next to me waiting to receive the ball for a throw in. Mini -- takes the ball and looks for an open teammate. Classic -- puts hand on ear and makes a face.

(I'm ignoring all that stuff about moisturizing and kissing and whatever else... studiously ignoring... shouting down...)

[Edited by rainmaker on Oct 16th, 2003 at 01:14 AM]

nope :)

The Fox 40 mini does make a different sound than the classic. I had one and got rid of it. You can use the classic in any game so why not simplify things by just using a classic?
Shoes - I have found that Converse and New Balance do not last as long as other shoes. I wear a couple of different kinds of Nikes. I used to be in Las Vegas and had a shoe man that could work magic! I have to find a new one. Take care of your feet! Find a shoe that is right for you and buy two pairs if you want. If your feet are hurting from bad shoes you cannot be as effective on the court, period.
I have also found that compression shorts are good but I feel more comfortable wearing Underarmor compression pants. I wear Underarmor compression v-necks or Nike dri-fit shirts.
I have regular shirts, micromesh shirts and two grey shirts on the way. Whatever feels good to you. A trip to a good tailor and a couple of dollars will have your shirts fitting very good.
Pleats are the way to go and I would get some from a good source. You will wear them a lot and you will pay now or pay for more later.
Lanyards are also a personal preference. A noose with the bead type slider works for some but I don't wear it. The smitty is really annoying to me. I wear the noose with the disc type slider (I don't know what else to call it).
I don't know if flex belts work or not and buy some socks that are comfortable to you.

-All black shoes (nike? new balance? cons?)
I have the converse patent leather, but will try new balance next season

-Black/White socks (dr. scholl's here. no sho? crew?
others?)
Black socks, champion brand, ankle socks

-Pants/Slacks (sansabelt here. dress slacks? cotton/wool/poly?)
Honigs Brand, 1 pair pleated, 1 pair flat, best quality pants between them and the sansabelt

-Black Shorts (Nike mesh here. others?)
I got a pair from a camp i went to, Nike, with our provincial association logo screened on them.

-Compress shorts (mcdavid? underarmour? others?)
None, but looking to try

-Flex belt (yes/no?)
No

-Undershirt (underarmor here. reg t-shirt? tank? others?)
McDavid, V-neck sleeveless

-Referee shirt (poly? mesh? other?) (this one especially)
I have 1 poly, which i wear the Intera Under shirt under, and one intera shirt

-Lanyard (smitty? choker? other?)
smitty, haven't been able to get a hold of a noose yet, but have been looking, and would like to try.

-Fox 40 (reg/mini? mouthguard?)
Reg, with CMG

-Jacket (association here. sahara? coach's jacket? satin? other?)
Association Jacket, (honigs jacket with association emblem embroidered on)