triplets switching free throw shooters
 

This is making the rounds. Brothers having the other shoot the free throws.

https://amp.news-leader.com/amp/2464911002

Perfect opportunity to assess a T for "knowingly attempting a free throw or accepting a foul to which the player was not entitled."

That is, assuming we memorized the number of the correct shooter.

Which we rarely but possibly can fail to do as the calling or the non-calling official if we don't utilize prescribed mechanics at the site of the foul (as described in the official's manual).

Hilarious Crazy Teenage Hijinks And Shenanigans ...
 

Reminds me of the Patty Duke Show (ABC, 1963).

https://youtu.be/qQTqKcojrVY

"Where Cathy adores the minuet, the Ballet Russe and crêpes Suzette, our Patty loves to rock 'n' roll, a hot dog makes her lose control. What a wild duet! Still, they're cousins, identical cousins and you'll find, they laugh alike, they walk alike, at times they even talk alike. You can lose your mind, when cousins are two of a kind."

Hypothetical

A1 shoots the first free throw and makes it. Officials realize A1 shouldn't be shooting. T on A1. Does A2 get to attempt the first free throw again?

Correctable Error ...
 

Yes, the original FTs would be canceled and the correct player would attempt them again, if the officials caught the error during the proper timeframe.

This is one of our “local” schools. I’ve never had them in basketball but have had them many times in softball. They are just outside our association but we do have them in tournaments. Thankfully, I don’t think this was our associations officials on this game.

Word is these boys have perfected this and dad (their varsity coach) turns a blind eye. Most surmise he coaches them to do it.

Our state office has stated they can’t do anything about the game results, which I understand, but it would be nice to see some type of punishment, several game suspensions for the players and coach, which would hopefully send the message to knock off the crap. But as of now, there has been nothing handed down

If there's a plus side to this, officials that have this team for the remainder of the season may be more aware and vigilant in identifying the proper free throw shooter.

This right here. I have a feeling every official in the area has now seen this video. I normally just mention good sportsmanship to the captains and coaches and ask them to help with that. I'd be tempted to include an extra statement about how unsportsmanlike acts will be dealt with appropriately.

In the hypothetical, both players engaged in unethical conduct. If you assess a player technical (10-4-6), do you give it to the FT shooting triplet? To the fouled triplet? To both (false multiple foul) for their complicity in the unsporting act? Or do you assess a single team technical (10-2-4)?

I don't have the books handy, but isn't the T for "attempting a FT to which the player is not entitled" or some words like that? Give the T to whoever goes to the FT line.

I suppose it's like the "play" where one player lifts another. 10-4-6 also forbids both climbing upon and lifting a teammate. Theoretically, you could charge them both. I think the last time the climbing/lifting came up, the general consensus on this forum was to pick one (likely the climber).

My gut is what Bob said. The list in 10-4-6 is not all encompassing ("includes, but not limited to"). Both players are complicit in this deceit. But, 10-4-6-f expressly mentions "knowingly attempting a free throw". So, I'm likely charging that player and moving on. They will get the message.

While you could theoretically support any of these options under the umbrella of "unsporting," the best option is to give one T to the player who goes to the line undeservingly. The rule explicitly supports a player T for "knowingly attempting a free throw...to which the player was not entitled." Nothing that the coach can argue there.

You don't need two T's here to send a message that you're not falling for this crap.

The Edmund Hillary Play ...
 

https://forum.officiating.com/basket...up-player.html

https://forum.officiating.com/basket...html#post28082

State office? Game suspensions? Nothing handed down? This should be treated like any other situation involving someone attempting to shoot in place of another. Because they look alike is irrelevant as far as the rules are concerned. Would you request something to be "..handed down.." if they were simply teammates and did not look alike? I doubt it. And there are many things that happen in games that are not caught, some far more egregious than this and state associations are certainly not involved. This is in the news merely b/c it involved identical looking players. If they were neither twins nor triplets, etc., then this thread would have never been started.

Refs kicked it, plain and simple. Everyone wants to point fingers at the players. What about the refs that allowed an incorrect player to shoot free throws and it went undetected by the whole crew, including the table? Yikes!

State organizations and conferences can take actions in all kinds of ways when it is brought to the attention that some rules were violated or if something unethical took place. Again, if it is on tape, that can be penalized just like any other body takes actions. Kind of the same way the Patriots got in trouble for videotaping illegally or messing with air in a football. That is not an unusual action if they were to take some action. It appears it is being taught to violate those rules. And it is clear on tape this took place. I do not know why it could not be penalized after the fact. But now they are on notice.

Peace