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Don't give us "What happens in the locker room stays in the locker room". |
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If a casebook play falls in a forest and no one is around to read it, is it still a casebook play?
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Another, related question is how do you cite such a case to a coach? "Jack, there was a case 15 years ago that said...."
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In my opinion, 10.7.1A does not cover the OP's situation. "B1 takes a certain spot on the court..." implies intent, an intentional act that is neither accidental, as in "falls to the floor," as in 10.6.1, nor incidental during a scramble, as in the OP.
I'm much more comfortable saying to a coach, "He didn't have legal guarding position," than "There's an old case...." |
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A contact foul has to be caused by a player doing something illegal. Falling down isn't illegal unless we are going to get into the flopping debate. |
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"Coach, the rule states that every player is entitled to a spot on the playing court provided such player gets there first without illegally contacting an opponent". I could follow up with, "There's a difference between being tripped, and tripping". I used this statement successfully in the past for a few different situations. It seems to work. |
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"But what do you tell the coach when they ask 'what did the offender do wrong?'"
"No LGP, Coach." The disagreement here centers on different understandings of what is meant by B1 taking a spot on the court, if it means LGP or if it includes lying on the court. Arem Red's statement--"You can’t play legal defense laying on the ground"--makes more sense to me. I've offered my take, YMMV. OK. |
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I always thought defense responsible for contact unless in LGP. they are entitled to a position as long as in LGP.
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Also, how should we handle cases found in case books of one level but not in another? Should we apply the case play from one level to another (presuming no real rule differences and that situations are similar)?
I have found case plays in the NCAAM case book and used them as a way to rule a situation in NFHS. (plays/rules were identical) |
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Thanks for the discussion. I am sticking with my no call. I have not seen an argument to change my mind.
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