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Mark Padgett Tue Oct 14, 2003 01:53pm

I always tell coaches to refer to me by my nickname - "Studmuffin".

Dan_ref Tue Oct 14, 2003 01:57pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
I always tell coaches to refer to me by my nickname - "Studmuffin".
"Most people call me studmuffin but you can just call me Muffy."

:)


ChuckElias Tue Oct 14, 2003 02:19pm

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Originally posted by oatmealqueen
Yesss.. finally..
Be careful what you wish for, my tiny butter-bottom -- I mean, oatmealqueen.

(Sorry, I watched "Master of Disguise" with my daughter this weekend. :) )

Jurassic Referee Tue Oct 14, 2003 02:49pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by oatmealqueen
Yesss.. finally..
Be careful what you wish for, my tiny butter-bottom -- I mean, oatmealqueen.


Wait 'til she finds out what the initiation is! :eek:

heeheeheeheehee......

rainmaker Tue Oct 14, 2003 03:53pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
I always tell coaches to refer to me by my nickname - "Studmuffin".
...and the women all laugh, and the men stare in disbelief -- except one.

theboys Wed Oct 15, 2003 08:43am

When my son played baseball we often had the same umpires, and I became casual friends with a few. During one game, I called one by name - it wasn't a confrontational situation, or anything like that - just part of a conversation. He quietly told me, if I didn't mind, to address him as "blue" during games.

Also, in my howler monkey days I almost got thrown out of a gym for complaining to a ref, and calling him by name when I did so. Of course, it probably didn't help that I had complained, oh, once or twice before that. But, that was the specific reason he gave.

So, now, I call all officials "ref" or "blue" or "ump". I think it shows more respect, and gives the unreformed howlers less ammunition for conspiracy theory development.

Also, I suspect its a lot like being a good friend of the President. You call him Mr. President during official functions, and whatever he lets you get away with in private.

oatmealqueen Fri Oct 17, 2003 06:36pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by oatmealqueen
Yesss.. finally..
Be careful what you wish for, my tiny butter-bottom -- I mean, oatmealqueen.


Wait 'til she finds out what the initiation is! :eek:

heeheeheeheehee......

Yikes.. Is it bad?

zebraman Fri Oct 17, 2003 07:17pm

I call the coaches "coach" and I prefer that they call me "ref." Yeah, I know most of them, and most of them know me. However, perception is reality. If a coach calls me by name all game long, I just ignore him. Then the next time I see him, I ask him to call me "ref" from now on during games. IMHO, it's about professionalism. Just like having a long conversation in the bleachers with one coach prior to a game can make the other coach think they're going to get homered, the same perception can occur if one coach is thinking that me and the other coach are first name buddies.

Z

Jurassic Referee Fri Oct 17, 2003 07:29pm

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Originally posted by oatmealqueen
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by oatmealqueen
Yesss.. finally..
Be careful what you wish for, my tiny butter-bottom -- I mean, oatmealqueen.


Wait 'til she finds out what the initiation is! :eek:

heeheeheeheehee......

Yikes.. Is it bad?

Not for us!

Heeheeheeheehee.....

mick Fri Oct 17, 2003 07:42pm

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Originally posted by oatmealqueen
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by oatmealqueen
Yesss.. finally..
Be careful what you wish for, my tiny butter-bottom -- I mean, oatmealqueen.


Wait 'til she finds out what the initiation is! :eek:

heeheeheeheehee......

Yikes.. Is it bad?

Well, I had to send my first born to NC, ... and then my last born.
I had to go through a remodeling project in NY.
I had to give out a secret recipe.
That almost completed the first stage, I hope.

Rich Sun Oct 19, 2003 03:28am

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Originally posted by JRutledge
I always introduce myself to the coaches with my full name, it can be difficult to have them only call me by my last name or call me sir. I also know many coaches that have had me on their games for years, so calling me by my frist name is common. The only problem I might have is with the players. The better call me Mr. Rutledge, sir or ref. They are not on my level and they have no business refering to adults by their first name. They should not call their teachers by their first name, nor would they call their coach by their first name and as an official I am on a higher level of authority when that game is going on. But when coaches refer to me by my first name, not much I can do about it, nor should I do much about it in my opinion. As long as they do not call me out of my name, I have no problem with that. They are adults, I do not want to treat them as less than that.

Peace

The players do not know my last name since I *always* introduce myself as Rich.

The players and coaches can call me anything they like as long as it's done in the right manner. I have more important things to worry about.

Rich

rpirtle Sun Oct 19, 2003 07:31am

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
I always tell coaches to refer to me by my nickname - "Studmuffin".
I prefer, "Mr. Studmuffin...sir!" :D

Mark Dexter Sun Oct 19, 2003 07:50pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
I always tell coaches to refer to me by my nickname - "Studmuffin".

But then wouldn't you have to T them up for lying??? :p

jeffpea Tue Oct 21, 2003 12:42am

As a former assistant college basketball coach-turned referee, I can tell you that calling officials by name was a common occurrence. It was one of my duties to jot down the name of each official during pre-game introductions so that the head coach could use it later on. It didn't matter if it was DIII or DI - using the name of an official when talking to him is a standard practice.

As an official, we are in the "people business". We need to communicate with our partners, the scorers table, players and coaches. To run a smooth game, you are going to have to resolve conflict, prevent problems, have a feel for the tempo/tenor of the game. The best way to do that is by communicating. We're both going to be here for the next 2hrs, so why not have a working relationship. I don't have to like the coach, but we certainly need to work together. If I'm talking to a coach, I want to use his name; it creates an feeling of "approachability". I want a coach to talk to me, not yell at me. A coach just wants to know that you are willing listen to what he has to say - within reason, of course.

bludevil1221 Tue Oct 21, 2003 03:38pm

The funny thing is that in some associations the officials don't even know each others names.....


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