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crosscountry55 Wed Nov 14, 2018 05:46pm

Initial LGP established outside. Therefore if he maintains it, the RA isn’t in play. BUT...when the defender moved toward the shooter slightly when repositioning his right foot, he was not maintaining LGP. So at this point the initial establishment of LGP had been re-started...from the RA.

Ultimately the L seemed to determine that the defender did not re-establish LGP outside the RA before the shooter left the floor. That must be why he pointed to the RA. The video shows that this was a CI and it wasn’t really that close. Should have been a PC foul; I had it as a 90/10 charge and that’s being conservative.

This shows just how hard it is to judge the RA and the two involved players at the same time. Would have liked to have seen C come in and offer help here. I wonder if he had an opinion?




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Raymond Wed Nov 14, 2018 05:48pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 1026007)
Offensive foul, defender's right foot is initially inside the RA but he moves it forward and obtains LGP before the shooter leaves the floor. Tough play though. Should have reviewed the RA status on the monitor.

That can only be done in the last 2 minutes of regulation or overtime.

John Gaffney is a good official, but he got this play wrong. Maybe the Trail could have helped out if he had been sideline oriented.

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bob jenkins Thu Nov 15, 2018 08:47am

It's also very close as to whether the defender had LGP before the shooter was airborne (but I think he did).

Didn't NCAAM used to have some sort of "upward motion" component on this play?

A lot for the lead to process here.

SC Official Thu Nov 15, 2018 09:03am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1026034)
Didn't NCAAM used to have some sort of "upward motion" component on this play?

Yeah, that lasted one season before they went back to the current rule.

Raymond Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:49am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1026034)
It's also very close as to whether the defender had LGP before the shooter was airborne (but I think he did).

Didn't NCAAM used to have some sort of "upward motion" component on this play?

A lot for the lead to process here.

Yes, and it made it impossible for the Lead to officiate because he was supposed check for the legality of the secondary defender starting with his feet while also determining if the offensive player had begun his upward motion. Total cluster...


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