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Nevadaref Thu Oct 09, 2003 02:02am

My association has decided not to use the Federation test this year. Instead they are going to give us some 200 question test that the California people write and it will be a take home exam.

I really do not like this. First, I think all exams should be closed book in order to see what you know and what you don't. Secondly, if and when I move somewhere else I will not have been taking NFHS tests for a while and I could go to a place that uses them. I would like to keep up with the tests for myself as I believe that I learn a great deal about the rules from them. For example, there are some NFHS interps that I only know from looking at the answers to past tests.
So understanding that some associations out there use part I as an evaluation tool and therefore, it would not be good to post the questions on the net at this time, would someone kindly scan the test and email it to me?
Thanks
[email protected]

BktBallRef Thu Oct 09, 2003 09:18am

Just wait. It'll be posted somewhere online.

Rick Vietti Thu Oct 09, 2003 10:50am

NR - I think you gave me this web site for NFHS tests. Try them later in the season.


http://www.cboa.org/nfhsexams.htm

Nevadaref Fri Oct 10, 2003 05:58am

I did Rick, but they don't seem to always post all the tests.
PS What do you think about us not using the NFHS test?

Rick Vietti Fri Oct 10, 2003 09:58am

I think we should still take the Fed test. I prefer the method that the Football Chapter has adopted. You take a 50 question Cal. Test and 50 question Fed test all closed book. The Cal. Test is covered in study groups, so basically you have the answers for that in advance.

The Fed test for basketball is the hardest of the Fed tests that I have taken. I think we are going to this method because of the low scores the last few years and how bad the Fed test is designed. The Fed Test focuses more on tricking the test taker than on testing your rule knowledge.

dblref Sat Oct 11, 2003 07:06pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Vietti
NR - I think you gave me this web site for NFHS tests. Try them later in the season.


http://www.cboa.org/nfhsexams.htm

This is my association and we have had a small turnover of personnel (secretary & web guru) so we have been lax in posting. We no longer take the test in August (for fall ball) because all girls teams now play in the winter.

JRutledge Sat Oct 11, 2003 09:05pm

Rick,
 
So your state does not give a test at all?

Peace

ref18 Sat Oct 11, 2003 11:34pm

Just out of curiosity, has anyone seen a copy of this years fed test?

JRutledge Sun Oct 12, 2003 12:01am

Part 1 I assume.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
Just out of curiosity, has anyone seen a copy of this years fed test?
Yes. I have had a copy of the test for about 3 weeks. I already took the test online and got a 99.

Peace

BktBallRef Sun Oct 12, 2003 10:11am

1 + 1 = 2
 
Quote:

Originally posted by JRutledge
So your state does not give a test at all?
Read the original post.

Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
My association has decided not to use the Federation test this year. Instead they are going to give us some 200 question test that the California people write and it will be a take home exam.
Then, read this post.

Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
What do you think about US not using the NFHS test?
Conclusion: Neveadaref and Rick Vietti are both from Nevada. Also, Rick's profile and NevadaRef's username would also support this axiom. Therefore, they will both be taking the "200 question test that the California people write."

JRutledge Sun Oct 12, 2003 11:00am

I think they can speak for themselves.
 
Tony,

In our language, association is not "the state." I have never been given a test by my "association," which to me and seems to many means your <b>local officials association.</b> So I am trying to clarify, if they are talking about their state office, which does not seem to have the same power across the country, if their "State" gives them the test, rather than their local official's association. And yes I can assume this when guys are always saying they got a playoff game based on what an "Chapter" gave them. No one in my state gets a game from any person in a "Chapter," so this is totally foreign to me. All our test have to be summitted to Bloomington, Illinois <b>(the IHSA Office)</b>, not my Secretary of IACAO for example.

BTW, this is why I asked him, not you. ;)

Peace

[Edited by JRutledge on Oct 12th, 2003 at 11:04 AM]

ref18 Sun Oct 12, 2003 02:27pm

Where did you take the test on-line???

JRutledge Sun Oct 12, 2003 05:31pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
Where did you take the test on-line???
Through the IHSA. We can summit our test online or thru the mail. Not something everyone can do, unless you already have a license with the IHSA.

When you take the test online, you find out immediately what your score is. We will not know which answers are correct until right before the season starts. That too will be submitted online as well on our individual website.

Peace

[Edited by JRutledge on Oct 12th, 2003 at 05:36 PM]

Jay R Sun Oct 12, 2003 06:13pm

I noticed that the Metro Toronto Board has the test on-line. The address is http://www.torontoreferees.org

BktBallRef Sun Oct 12, 2003 06:14pm

Re: I think they can speak for themselves.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by JRutledge
Tony,

In our language, association is not "the state." I have never been given a test by my "association," which to me and seems to many means your <b>local officials association.</b> So I am trying to clarify, if they are talking about their state office, which does not seem to have the same power across the country, if their "State" gives them the test, rather than their local official's association. And yes I can assume this when guys are always saying they got a playoff game based on what an "Chapter" gave them. No one in my state gets a game from any person in a "Chapter," so this is totally foreign to me. All our test have to be summitted to Bloomington, Illinois <b>(the IHSA Office)</b>, not my Secretary of IACAO for example.


So by "state," you're referring to the Illnois High School ASSOCIATION, and when you say ASSOCIATION, you are not referrring to the Illnois High School ASSOCIATION and since the Illnois High School ASSOCIATION is not an ASSOCIATION, then the "state" is a what? :confused:


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