What would you have done

[Back In The Saddle]

Close game, not high scoring, but both teams are working their tails off. Three point shot goes up, the shooter comes back to the floor, then gets vigorously "boxed out" and knocked off his spot by a couple of feet. I call the foul.

The coach wants to talk about it. When I explain that you can't just shove the guy off his spot, he replies, "they're coached to do that." And, of course, one of the players chimes in, "it's called boxing out." So far, just par for the course.

Then the coach informs me that, "a good referee would not have made that call." At that point I walk away and we throw the ball in.

After a good nights sleep I'm now wondering if I should have Td him up for a rather obvious insult directly to my face. I'd like your opinions, what would you have done?

[stripes]

Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
Then the coach informs me that, "a good referee would not have made that call." At that point I walk away and we throw the ball in.

Whack him for a comment like this.

[Mark Padgett]

"A good coach doesn't teach his players to commit stupid fouls." Then......WHACK.

[som44]

I think i would have walked away also--if he made another comment i would t him up but why not walk at first

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
Close game, not high scoring, but both teams are working their tails off. Three point shot goes up, the shooter comes back to the floor, then gets vigorously "boxed out" and knocked off his spot by a couple of feet. I call the foul.

What did you call? The shot was up, the player returned to the floor, yeah, maybe he was pushed on the aggresive box out but was there any chance that he was still in the play?

The coach wants to talk about it. When I explain that you can't just shove the guy off his spot, he replies, "they're coached to do that." And, of course, one of the players chimes in, "it's called boxing out." So far, just par for the course.

Then the coach informs me that, "a good referee would not have made that call." At that point I walk away and we throw the ball in.

Assuming this is a comment he made to you and only you heard it, it was good to ignore & move on. If he yelled it across the floor as you're walking away then you gotta bang his @ss good.

After a good nights sleep I'm now wondering if I should have Td him up for a rather obvious insult directly to my face. I'd like your opinions, what would you have done?

My opinion: as I read it I would not have called the foul to begin with (good refs don't make this call ). If I did see something I didn't like and called a foul I might have explained it this way: "Coach, I can't have your player doing blah blah blah. I know you don't teach them to do that". But it would have to be a BIG something. In any event, you walked over to him for this discussion, if he's reasonable about it you can't T him up. You are allowed to just say nothing when asked a question.

[canuckrefguy]

This is a judgement call...a certain level of "boxing out" contact has to be allowed, but one of the reasons we stay with the shooter when that shot goes up is to catch the fouls that happen after the shooter lands.

Gets knocked back a couple feet, I'd say no-call.

Anything more than that, or if the shooter ends up on his butt, call it. Boxing out is not a free pass to body check.

As for the coach and kid, walk away. It doesn't sound like it was one of those yell-across-the-court-and-show-up-the-ref type comments.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by Back In The Saddle


Then the coach informs me that, "a good referee would not have made that call."

"Coach, a good ref wouldn't be working this game!"

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by rainmaker

"Coach, a good ref wouldn't be working this game!"

Reminds me of my favorite comeback:

"Hey ref, you're missing a great game!"
"Yeah, I know, but they sent me here tonight."

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

Reminds me of my favorite comeback:

"Hey ref, you're missing a great game!"
"Yeah, I know, but they sent me here tonight."

"Ref, you're missing a great game!"
"What, you've got a TV over there?!"

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by rainmaker

"Ref, you're missing a great game!"
"What, you've got a TV over there?!"

Nice! It's in my bag now!

[canuckrefguy]

One variant on these....

"Hey ref, you're missing a good game"

"Yeah, I know...but I don't always get to ref at (fierce rival school they hate)...sometimes they make me come here".

[JugglingReferee]

I might have a no-call on that play, but the comment he made earn a T from me.

[Edited by JugglingReferee on Oct 3rd, 2003 at 05:07 AM]

[stripes]

Originally posted by som44
I think i would have walked away also--if he made another comment i would t him up but why not walk at first

Why walk away a let the coach get away with a totally (IMO) unacceptable comment. The comment is over the line and needs to be addressed. why let him walk on you?

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by canuckrefguy
One variant on these....

"Hey ref, you're missing a good game"

"Yeah, I know...but I don't always get to ref at (fierce rival school they hate)...sometimes they make me come here".

This goes in the book!

[Indy_Ref]

I don't think I've ever seen a player get knocked off his spot ONLY a few feet by a vigorous block-out. To me, a vigorous block-out almost always puts an opposing player on his/her behind. That draws a whistle from me everytime...everytime I see it, that is!

Too many players these days have spent too much time watching Reggie Miller, et al, as they fall down after ever shot trying to get a call. If I see this, I usually tell the player, "Get up! You're not gettin' that tonight unless it's real!" That usually puts an end to it.

General rule of thumb for the coach: If he goes over the line but no one else hears it, I probably let it go...but he/she grandstands and others hear it, WHACK.