Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1015083)

But in this very specific circumstance (telling a player that they can't play with an illegal undershirt, and then charging them with a technical foul when they go to the bench, on their own volition, and remove it) is not the way that I want to start my game,

Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1015025)

Whenever I see illegal gear ... that requires removal, I tell the player to go to the locker room.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1015087)

So tell the player "if you want to play, you need to leave the gym and take off the undershirt"

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1015042)

Good preventative officiating.

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1015083)

When in Rome ...

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1015074)

SITUATION 4: During the pregame warm-up, the 12 members of Team A are wearing warm-up tops, but not their team jerseys. Approximately one minute prior to the opening jump ball, the 12 Team A members go to the team bench, remove the warm-up tops and put on the team jerseys. RULING: One technical foul is charged to Team A, and it is also charged indirectly to the head coach. COMMENT: In a situation where similar multiple infractions occur at the same time, it is not the intent of the rules to penalize each individual infraction as a separate technical foul. (3-4-15; 10-4-1h)

Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 1014991)

... player that went through his full warm-up, up to about 1:00 before tip off, in just his compression undershirt.

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1015078)

I wonder if they apply to frezer11's original post of putting jerseys on before a game, since the rule states that players can't remove the jersey and/or pants/skirt (nothing about putting jerseys on, and nothing was removed) within the visual confines of the playing area. In fact Situation 4 doesn't exactly match the rule because the players are taking off warmups within the visual confines of the playing area, while the rule states that players can't remove the jersey and/or pants/skirt (nothing about removing warmups) within the visual confines of the playing area.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1015074)

You don't.

SITUATION 4: During the pregame warm-up, the 12 members of Team A are wearing warm-up tops, but not their team jerseys. Approximately one minute prior to the opening jump ball, the 12 Team A members go to the team bench, remove the warm-up tops and put on the team jerseys. RULING: One technical foul is charged to Team A, and it is also charged indirectly to the head coach. COMMENT: In a situation where similar multiple infractions occur at the same time, it is not the intent of the rules to penalize each individual infraction as a separate technical foul. (3-4-15; 10-4-1h)

SITUATION 5: A1 is directed to leave the game with a blood-saturated jersey. While at the team bench area, he/she removes the jersey and changes into a clean, spare jersey. RULING: A1 is assessed a technical foul. Team B is awarded two free throws and the ball for a division line throw-in. COMMENT: The uniform rule is intended to be applied in all situations. It is not unreasonable to expect team members to leave the playing area to change uniforms. (3-4-15; 10-4-1h)[

Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 1015095)

I'm assuming these citations are from a previous year's case book? I don't see them in the current book, and quoted rules citations are inaccurate. What year's book are you referencing, or is this an interpretation from somewhere else?

Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 1015095)

I'm assuming these citations are from a previous year's case book? I don't see them in the current book, and quoted rules citations are inaccurate. (Rule 3 Section 4 has 5 articles, not 15). What year's book are you referencing, or is this an interpretation from somewhere else?

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1015096)

2005-06 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations.

https://forum.officiating.com/basket...tml#post546075

Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 1015101)

I think the intent of that interpretation is that teams must warm up in the game jersey, and will from here on out interpret it as such.

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1015091)

Is it the intent of the NFHS that players not show any underwear (undershirt), or skin, within the visual confines of the playing area, before, or during the game (under the jurisdiction of the officials)?

Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 1015101)

What it does show is that if you pull off any kind of warm up, you must have the jersey underneath.

Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 1015101)

I don't know if this applies to the original scenario or not. What it does show is that if you pull off any kind of warm up, you must have the jersey underneath. As far as adding the jersey without taking anything off? It appears that the rule, cases, and interpretation are centered around removing items in the visual confines, not so much about adding them.

Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1015115)

I feel it is skin.

Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1015115)

I do not see where it shows that.

Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 1015129)

See Bob's Post #12 above, Situation 4.

Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1015132)

I did and still do not see where it shows that. I read it as the warm up top comes off to reveal bare skin. I do not read that it requires the jersey be underneath. Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 1015137)

It is the doffing and/or donning of the jersey itself.