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Old Wed Jan 03, 2018, 11:18am
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Out of Bounds Location

Over the holidays, I had a partner who refused to administer a spot throw where the ball went out of bounds. Instead this individual, would often bounce the ball across the lane on baseline throw ins. On more than 1 occasion, this left myself and our 3rd out of position. Below is an excerpt from a recent IAABO newsletter, which seems like perfect timing. I normally address this as the R in pre-game, but in this case I was U2 and our pre-game was cut short. Afterwards, I asked the individual about bouncing across the lane and they said they are fine doing that and many college instructors are okay with this to speed up play. That doesn't sound right to me, but I always appreciate hearing from others. Thoughts? Is anyone else hearing this from instructors?

Officials should also guard against the urge to determine the throw-in spot based on the location of the officials. This frequently occurs when the ball is knocked out of bounds on the endline across the lane. In this case, the lead needs to administer the throw-in across the lane which will require his/her partner(s) to move across the court. Often times you will see the administering official put the ball in an incorrect location so the partners will not have to move. On other occasions, there are throw-ins placed on the sideline, when by rule it should be on the endline. We need to remind ourselves what impact this type of decision has on both teams. Many teams have designed inbounds plays, and if we put the ball in an incorrect location, we do impact the effectiveness of both the offense and defense on the ensuing throw-in.
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Old Wed Jan 03, 2018, 11:42am
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NCAAW bounces across on end-line going long. It's not the FED mechanic, but it should be.
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Old Wed Jan 03, 2018, 12:45pm
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NCAAW bounces across on end-line going long. It's not the FED mechanic, but it should be.
I think NCAAM went to it this year, too. Can an NCAAM official confirm or deny?

Yes, it should be the NFHS mechanic.

(If not going long, then they shouldn't be bouncing anyway.)
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Old Wed Jan 03, 2018, 01:57pm
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In NCAAW (and maybe NCAAM and hopefully NFHS one day), what do you do when going long with backcourt pressure? Still bounce across? Because that's a time you would not currently bounce (at all much less across) in NFHS mechanics.
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Old Wed Jan 03, 2018, 02:12pm
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NCAA-M you have the option of bouncing across the lane with no pressure in the backcourt. If there is pressure you should go across to administer.
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Old Wed Jan 03, 2018, 02:27pm
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In NCAAW (and maybe NCAAM and hopefully NFHS one day), what do you do when going long with backcourt pressure? Still bounce across? Because that's a time you would not currently bounce (at all much less across) in NFHS mechanics.
Still bounce in NCAAW
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Old Wed Jan 03, 2018, 03:25pm
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I like the NF mechanic the way it is. I also am not aware of a change for the NCAAM to change the mechanic either. It looks lazy to me to bounce the ball across the lane.

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Old Fri Jan 05, 2018, 12:10am
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Exactly. There is only one long switch and that's when the lead calls a change of possesion foul. Period.


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Old Fri Jan 05, 2018, 10:43am
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This will differ per state as the NFHS book says that officials go table side after a foul call, however IABBO states go opposite table in high school.
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Old Fri Jan 05, 2018, 10:57am
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This is a minor issue. Some states do things differently as it relates to long switches. I have no idea honestly what the NF mechanic is because we have a hard fast rule in the IHSA. Any time the lead calls a foul, and we are going from BC to FC after the ball is in play, then the lead comes off the end line and goes tableside on a switch. If the Trail makes the call and we are going from BC to FC, we go back to still be the Trail.

Even if the NF has a mechanic, it sounds like many other things there are philosophies to do it a certain way regardless of what is in that book. IJS.

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Old Fri Jan 05, 2018, 12:39pm
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How many of you long switch vs. not? I prefer to do it and tell guys that if I'm the R, but if 2/3 don't want to, I don't push the issue. It seems like most don't want to around here. I prefer to do it because evaluators always want us doing it and it's hard to do it if you're not in the habit of doing it. I've been evaluated 4 times already this year, two of them we didn't realize we were being evaluated until he came into the locker room after the game. I don't want to get dinged on an eval for something that's so simple.
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Old Fri Jan 05, 2018, 02:12pm
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How many of you long switch vs. not? I prefer to do it and tell guys that if I'm the R, but if 2/3 don't want to, I don't push the issue.
No long switch here, except as JRut indicated. I'd prefer never. But, if the state wanted "always" (as yours seems to want), I'd always do it and not put it up to a vote (as you seem to do)
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