UCLA @ Michigan plays (Video)
 

Play #1:

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Play #2:

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Play #3: (Play is coming)

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Peace

1 and 2 seem like routine calls.

(3 isn't posted, yet)

I thought #1 was pretty close. I am not sure that was a foul. Sometimes hard to call in real time, but it looks like the defender got the ball and almost made no contact with the arms. I would have liked to have had that back if I called a foul.

The first play was just an example of how we should call fouls on hits to the head even if slight.

Peace

On #3, I don't think it was missed, the dribbler's hand appeared to be what was in contact with the ball last.

I don't think the should have rotated either....there was nothing over there to cover.

#1) Don't like that the Trail put himself right on top of the trap and took himself out of position for the next pass. Would like for the Center to not have been moving away from the play when he blew his whistle.

#2) Not much to discuss. Hard contact, but not malicious or intentional.

#3) At the point where the question is asked, yes it was too early to rotate. Most of the players were still on the Lead/Trail side of the court and the ball was almost 40' from the basket.

Agreed -- but he could have rotated once the player started the dribble to the corner.

The angle we're seeing isn't great but I see solid contact between the defender's forearm and the A1's left elbow. I don't know about D1 but I think I'd want to call that a foul in my games.

For the record, D1 wants more fouls than our level. I still think that is not really a solid foul. If nothing was called I would have been fine in my games at the high school level.

Peace

I can see that being passed on. Defender went up and got ball, at least mostly.

It's all about a first reaction for the official -- obviously it tripped his trigger.

I have also made those calls I am sure in my career. They are close plays.

Peace

Wow I thought play 1 was a great defensive play.

I'm not sure he even touched the ball on that play.

I agree with Camron. Look at #14's left arm. That doesn't happen naturally. At full speed, with the flight of the ball going backward, I can see why some may think the defender hit the ball. However, it looks to me like he got hit on the left arm which caused the ball to come loose. The defender didn't argue or look surprised by the call.

You don't see the contact on the offensive player's elbow?

Not independent of the ball I do not. There is some incidental contact after the ball was defended, but that would not be a foul from my point of view if I saw it as clearly as the slow motion.

Peace

I see enough contact with the elbow to say he lost the ball due to that contact, and not from a clean steal. The defender's reaction tells me I'm not entirely wrong, either.

In real time, I probably have a foul.

In slow motion replay, I'm not convinced the defender made any contact with the UCLA player. In fact, it looks like the UCLA player was grasping the ball so tightly, that the force of the defender's hand moving toward the ball caused the UCLA player's long, lanky arms to give and move backward a bit before releasing the ball.

We will just have to disagree about that one. I have also had opponents react in ways that they think they did not foul, only to act differently when you tell them exactly what you saw. That happened Tuesday on a block where my partner called a foul. You would have thought he was completely clean only when I told him "I saw the off arm" and the kid smiled and completely backed off. I do not put much stock in their reaction. Because even most of the time when you call a foul they overreact. Does that mean we should think we missed the call then?

Peace

To me, he hits the ball with his right hand BEFORE the contact to the elbow with his left hand. The impetus for the ball coming loose is not from the elbow contact, it's from the Michigan player hitting the ball.

In that situation, Michigan wants a steal or a foul. The foul call actually helped Michigan as UCLA recovered the loose ball and would have ran additional time off the clock.

No. Most of the time players, whether innocent or guilty, will react like they didn't commit the foul. So while it isn't hard evidence, it is evidence none the less.

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This view of the play I can understand.

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If you want to go with that, you have that right. I just think there was not much contact with the elbow or the reason the ball was jarred loose. The ball was jarred loose to me by the contact with mostly the ball and maybe some hand contact as stated. Again, looking at the video I would want that call back if I was the one that made the call. If I had not made the call I would be happy that I got it right in my mind and in my philosophy. I do not know any steal that is perfect without contact on some level (or a block for that matter).

Peace