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grunewar Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:39pm

Is this what players really think?
 
Kevin Durant after being ejected on 12/1:

"The refs run the game, so if they're not feeling good today, they can just make any decision they want," Durant said. "I have to know that they got all of the power, and I got to shut up and take it."

JRutledge Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:42pm

Who cares what players think? He is making enough money that he should not worry about what officials do for the most part either. Get over yourself.

Peace

BryanV21 Sat Dec 02, 2017 06:02pm

The players run the league because they bring in the money, and money is what drives pro sports.

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BillyMac Sat Dec 02, 2017 06:38pm

Silence Is Golden ...
 
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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 1012207)
Durant said. "... I got to shut up ... "

At least he got this part right.

SC Official Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:31pm

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 1012214)
The players run the league because they bring in the money, and money is what drives pro sports.

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NBA refs in general are far more willing to issue a technical foul than lower levels and are supported when they do so.

Whereas in college the coaches have enough control that it leads to officials being scared to call T’s and (sometimes) supervisors not being willing to defend their officials in the interest of pandering to the coaches. Not all supervisors are like that, but there are some.

so cal lurker Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:36pm

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Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1012225)
NBA refs in general are far more willing to issue a technical foul than lower levels and are supported when they do so.

Whereas in college the coaches have enough control that it leads to officials being scared to call T’s and (sometimes) supervisors not being willing to defend their officials in the interest of pandering to the coaches. Not all supervisors are like that, but there are some.

The NBA T is also a less serious sanction—only one FT, no possession change, and I do not believe it countstowards fouling out.

deecee Mon Dec 04, 2017 08:18am

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Originally Posted by so cal lurker (Post 1012226)
The NBA T is also a less serious sanction—only one FT, no possession change, and I do not believe it countstowards fouling out.

Get enough T's and you get a suspension and 10's of thousand dollars worth of fines. So I'd say the NBA T's may seem less punitive on a game by game basis, however they carry a LOT more weight than lower level T's do.

Raymond Mon Dec 04, 2017 08:58am

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Originally Posted by so cal lurker (Post 1012226)
The NBA T is also a less serious sanction—only one FT, no possession change, and I do not believe it countstowards fouling out.

There is no possession change in the NCAA for a T unless it's flagrant or dead ball contact. Had a game last week where my partner T'd the home coach, then on the ensuing possession after the free throws, I popped the visiting coach. There was no big to-do about either T.

jTheUmp Mon Dec 04, 2017 09:59am

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 1012259)
Get enough T's and you get a suspension and 10's of thousand dollars worth of fines. So I'd say the NBA T's may seem less punitive on a game by game basis, however they carry a LOT more weight than lower level T's do.

If this list is accurate (and I have no reason to doubt that it is)... a garden-variety player technical incurs a $2000 fine in the NBA.

Seems like a lot... but relative to an NBA player's salary, it's not THAT much. The average NBA salary is somewhere in the $6 million range, which means that a $2000 fine is the same as a $17 fine to someone making $50,000 per year. Obviously, it's a bit different for players making the league minimum and for the highest earners, but still.


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